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[Billythepancake]

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Way to take 1 line and apply no context to it, kek. I don't expect optimization from a DF healer, I don't expect anything, tbh. While they're not all bad, the ones I tend to run into can barely handle 1 trash pack, no matter how I try to space CDs. I didn't say EVERY healer, I've specifically said the ones I'VE run into. I'm aware there are plenty of good/decent healers out there, maybe I'm just unlucky, who knows. And my definitions was more towards, how well can they handle the trash mobs, I don't parse normal content, I genuinely don't care what DPS the healer is pulling, what I do see though is a SCH spamming physic, not using his aetherflow that heals more and is instant cast, or a WHM that never uses tetra. I'd like to help and give advice, but if there's one thing this game has taught me, it doesn't matter how nice with my advice I try to be, people don't want to accept criticism, or being told that they could be doing better and I'm in danger of being called an "elitist" for DARING to ever suggest an improvement. You're the one that has it in their head I'm this super duper "YOU MUST DO THIS AND BE THIS GOOD OR YOURE GARBAGE RADA RADA" like, mate, I just want a decent pace when I'm doing dungeons, that's it, lmao, and yes, I expect healers to know the bare basics of their class to help make that happen, how awfully elitist of me.

[Maeka]

Way to take 1 line and apply no context to it, kek. I don't expect optimization from a DF healer, I don't expect anything, tbh. While they're not all bad, the ones I tend to run into can barely handle 1 trash pack, no matter how I try to space CDs. I didn't say EVERY healer, I've specifically said the ones I'VE run into. I'm aware there are plenty of good/decent healers out there, maybe I'm just unlucky, who knows.

I would say you are very unlucky because those certainly haven't been my experiences, and I should know, I'm one who is very guilty at seeing the negatives in things far too often, or at least friends tell me that.

And my definitions was more towards, how well can they handle the trash mobs, I don't parse normal content, I genuinely don't care what DPS the healer is pulling, what I do see though is a SCH spamming physic, not using his aetherflow that heals more and is instant cast, or a WHM that never uses tetra. I'd like to help and give advice, but if there's one thing this game has taught me, it doesn't matter how nice with my advice I try to be, people don't want to accept criticism, or being told that they could be doing better and I'm in danger of being called an "elitist" for DARING to ever suggest an improvement.

It's good that you give advice, though... based upon your reponses I've seen in other threads, perhaps... maybe try smoothing it over a little more? Especially if it's just a random person who didn't ask for advice?

My theory is that a lot of people have been burned by elitists and when a well-meaning one tries to give advice..... hey, I'm not elitist and I've tried to give advice only to get snapped at myself, I know what you mean there, but... well, that's the consequences of elitism really.

You're the one that has it in their head I'm this super duper "YOU MUST DO THIS AND BE THIS GOOD OR YOURE GARBAGE RADA RADA" like, mate, I just want a decent pace when I'm doing dungeons, that's it, lmao, and yes, I expect healers to know the bare basics of their class to help make that happen, how awfully elitist of me.

Well, maybe it's just you weren't communicating that very well or something? I dunno. But I suppose if all you want is to not die and the tank to be able to pull normal pulls... I don't fault you for that, no. It's just you spent half of the thread seemingly going on and on about how everybody should be optimizing and playing awesomely and it kinda... sounds off-putting to those who just want to clear duty finder content reasonably.

Hats off to the savage raiders who squeeze every .1% of DPS out, sure. Just as long as they aren't getting all uppity with me because I come home after work and just wanna do my daily expert because phantasmagoria gear is the best gear I really have access to, and just wanna clear the dungeon, not really caring if it takes us 15, 20, or heck even 30 minutes.

I will admit though, I did grumble (to my FC, not to the group) about a 45 (!!!) minute Temple of Qarn (with almost no deaths other than the first boss...) run a couple weeks ago. That was.... rather terrible, I'll admit. There are reasonable limits. That wasn't the healer's fault though, that was two sprout DPS who were wearing 10 levels out of date non-HQ crafted/vendor bought junk and the healer was in dungeon gear from, IIRC, Toto-Rak or something and wasn't even DPSing at all. I was the tank so there's not much I could have done to speed that up.