Thread: 5.0 Combat changes: What do you expect?

Since they going to remove TP there should be a lot of changings it seems. Especially for jobs that were mixed until the 5.0 (Bard, Paladin, Dark Knight, Red Mage...). But I do not really know, what exactly to expect in this shape. Some new system based on MP?
They also will likely rework role and usual skills. For last one it's probably going to be similar with 4.0 when they removed a lot of skills for making their whole amount not too big for hotbars.

I want combos to be consolidated into a single button the way it works now on PvP. I play on a console with a gamepad and its too annoying to have all those buttons on screen (I use macros to manage some but its still too much for the console UI to handle.)

There is zero reason to use combo abilities out of order anyways other than accidentally messing up your click. The game has been about weaving ogcds in between attacks and positioning for a long time anyways.

Edit:
Another thing I would love to see is a bit of re-organization of abilities. Some basics should just be available earlier in the game for progression reasons. Warriors, for instance, should not have to wait until level 60+ to get their gap-closer.

:: It's near certain that TP is more or less getting deleted. It will -not- be replaced by putting MP costs on weaponskills or anything like that. Some jobs may gain new uses for MP but the notion of a resource that drains away just by doing your basic rotation has been nothing but problems for SE and can safely die.

:: It appears confirmed (or close to it) that tank stances are either going away or getting a significant rework.

:: I consider it likely that the dynamics of enmity are going to be changed drastically. It seems like nearly every patch has brought with it a set of changed aimed at making it easier and easier for tanks to hold hate, so I'd bet that SE will want to overhaul the whole situation.

:: It's possible, given the change to TP, that SE would also like to do away with situations where MP behaves in an equivalent manner. They may want to axe Lucid, for instance, and just make RDM/SMN more naturally MP neutral without the arbitrary maintenance button.

:: From YoshiP's comments re: Dancer gear, it's plausible that we'll see i.e. NIN changed to use Strength, SAM moved to Maiming gear, and NIN to Striking, or some similar reconfiguration aimed at the Maiming/Scouting situation.

:: Something is almost definitely going to be done with Role Actions. It's a prime target to cull button bloat, but at the same time they probably do want i.e. every tank to learn Rampart. They might just settle for "every tank learns Rampart" as part of their base skill list, and not have a special category for it, maybe making some other role actions only learned by one job in that role etc.

:: We still have no idea how damage type debuffs are going to work. They explicitly stated that Gunbreaker will do slashing damage, so it seems that these will continue in some form, but obviously in piercing's case the current situation is untenable.

So I can certainly understand the statement "there are lots of inter-related things", because there are. If SE does have a goal of cutting down on all "maintenance" types of skills where you just press a boring formality button every 2-3 minutes because it lets the party function (MP, TP and enmity-wise), it would be tricky to talk about that in bits and pieces.

PLD is the job I could give the most feedback. I'd like the job to have:

1- A close gap. All tanks have it. PLD can also have it, some sort of Shield Charge or something like that. Make it consume gauge.
2- Holy Spirit but AoE. Call it Holy Burst. Enhanced with Requiescat. This would give them more AoE tools like the other tanks.
3- Reduction of CD times: Compared to other tanks, I feel the cds of both Sentinel and specially Bulwark are too high.
4- Making stance dancing off-GCD. It consumes MP, there's already a penalty.
5- Reduce or remove the animation delay of Hallowed Grounds.

Other than that, I have misc. suggestions for the rest of the tanks:

DRK:
-Just remove the need of using DA even to sit down. Seriously.

GUN:
-Don't make it an offgcd fest.

WAR:
-Is okay.