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    Lauralanthlas Kyiardi
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    PETITION: Regarding FINAL FANTASY XIV Steam Version (Mar. 8)

    Square Enix apparently has no knowledge of how poor the Steam client is.

    The majority of your users avoid the client because of this.

    By making the change announced today, you are sentencing your entire userbase of gamers who are forced to remain on Steam into a nightmare of performance problems and issues. The Steam overlay built into the client alone has caused massive issues with many users.

    As a result of this change, I hereby demand we be given a one-time ability to trade in our Steam keys for Square Enix direct Windows platform keys on our accounts.
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    they'll say there's nothing that they can do, and you should buy it from the $quare€nix store directly.
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  3. 03-08-2019 06:09 PM
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    You don't understand - they are changing it to require you to login via Steam. For now we don't have to do that, but when they change it in less than a month we will no longer be able to do that. We also cannot currently add a PC key to an account that already has a Steam key - I've tried.
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    I was about to make the same thread. Literally no one wants to log in on steam just to log in on a game.

    I'll bet they'll want us to reinstall it too. What a waste of time. No one wants this terrible change. It's complete garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladesong View Post
    I was about to make the same thread. Literally no one wants to log in on steam just to log in on a game.

    I'll bet they'll want us to reinstall it too. What a waste of time. No one wants this terrible change. It's complete garbage.
    It's even worse when you consider what happened to ESO when they did this. ESO steam users need to constantly maintain a connection to the steam auth server as well as the ZOS one. The steam auth server for ESO regularly goes down and Valve doesn't care to fix it. I made a thread earlier asking for a conversion from Steam to PC for Steam users with more details about the depth of the ESO Steam disaster there.
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    Morgana Pendragonne
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    Consider this signed.

    I am LIVID. This is not the state I bought the product in, and I was not warned of this change. I would even PAY for the option to be free of Steam. This is incredibly scummy and anti-consumer.

    I put in a SUPPORT TICKET, and I would ask anyone else to please also put in a ticket! Flood them with support tickets about this issue and make them realize how unpopular this is!

    I'm not taking this lying down, this is awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demonette View Post
    Consider this signed.

    I am LIVID. This is not the state I bought the product in, and I was not warned of this change. I would even PAY for the option to be free of Steam. This is incredibly scummy and anti-consumer.

    I put in a SUPPORT TICKET, and I would ask anyone else to please also put in a ticket! Flood them with support tickets about this issue and make them realize how unpopular this is!

    I'm not taking this lying down, this is awful.
    Yeah I lodged a ticket earlier myself. Having been through the ESO disaster while paying the optional sub and ZOS wringing their hands saying they couldn't do anything about it because the issue was all on Valve's end I won't put up with this again. If Valve had fixed the ESO issues that would be one thing but they haven't. Service has only just be restored earlier today (my time) from two days of downtime for Steam users.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...or-Steam-users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by szalkerous View Post

    ...I hereby demand...
    Yikes.

    You guys should instead be petitioning Valve and Steam regarding this, since it really seems to only be in Steam’s favor—and the wording used in the announcement strongly suggests it was per their request this change be made.
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  10. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurea View Post
    Yikes.

    You guys should instead be petitioning Valve and Steam regarding this, since it really seems to only be in Steam’s favor—and the wording used in the announcement strongly suggests it was per their request this change be made.
    They won't. ESO made this change and one particular incident lead to Steam ESO accounts not being able to log on for 4 weeks, followed by two days up then another 5 down. Valve doesn't care. SE can however allow us to apply PC keys to accounts that already have Steam keys. Something we can't currently do. Or offer Steam users a conversion to PC keys like they did for PS3 users to convert to PS4.
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    Dear Dev team:

    Please reconsider. I already consider myself to be punished for having bought the game off of Steam. Not only does it serve to be an extra layer between wanting to play the game, and logging in, but every time expansions roll around, I am never able to take advantage of the various sale prices.

    Within my FC, and the greater community of allied players that comprise three other FCs with a total of over 1200 players, we always inform newcomers to the game to never buy the Steam version already. To force this onto people who made the mistake of buying the game through Steam before realizing what it entailed, feels misguided at best, and vindictive at worst.

    If anything, I, and our greater community, almost universally to an individual, all feel that had we the opportunity, we would have all already purchased new, non-Steam editions of the game, just to free ourselves from having to buy all of our expansions there forever.
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