Thread: Relic Idea for 5.0

Well... If we become the warrior of darkness does that mean we farm darkness for the next relic?

If so that sounds really easy after watching konosuba… >.>

Mastercrafting. Have raids and other serious content (to be added, I guess) drop actual parts. Some are the chassis, while others can only augment or act as base material for other chassis.

You can build up rep, essentially, with different NPC artisans and so forth so they can augment, install, or assemble these parts. Or you can find player crafters. Or be one.

You build your own relic.

Granular, but with noticeable breakpoints to be hyped about. Few if any parts are RNG-based. Difficult content may be required, however. Grindy options allow you access to easier combat tasks by which to instead acquire the given part, but everything of value should as if directly from something difficult for the individual pursuer.

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Mastercrafting. Have raids and other serious content (to be added, I guess) drop actual parts. Some are the chassis, while others can only augment or act as base material for other chassis.

You can build up rep, essentially, with different NPC artisans and so forth so they can augment, install, or assemble these parts. Or you can find player crafters. Or be one.

You build your own relic.

Granular, but with noticeable breakpoints to be hyped about. Few if any parts are RNG-based. Difficult content may be required, however. Grindy options allow you access to easier combat tasks by which to instead acquire the given part, but everything of value should as if directly from something difficult for the individual pursuer.

I actually like this idea, and it makes sense lore wise as well. I know Gerolt is supposed to be 'the realm's greatest blacksmith', but damn it, our own crafting skill has got to be getting close to his by now.

Honestly, I'd be okay if they just brought back the same system that was used for Heavensward. I think the biggest takeaway from Eureka for me has been that relic weapons have nowhere near enough of a prestige factor to warrant its own game feature for it, especially if that feature is as godawful as Eureka.

I want Eureka but without Pagos. Just take the advances and good from Eureka and make it like that from start to finish.


I actually like the concept of going somewhere to just DO RELIC stuff. I mean, in the open world I get very side tracked very easy.

Just the thought of getting more poetics for my relic gets drowned out by "hmmm, maybe I should level crafting!/ Oh, a maps party?/ I wanna Nid scale, those go for 4mil!/ I just need the last 3 birdos .../ Should I try to get another Dog?/ Can I finally clear snake boi if I try all night?/ I need to race my Chocobo for my Clog .."

When I go to Eureka I just focus on eureka and only do it for a bit. Enough to make progress until I feel like I'm good for the night and can return to the whirlwind of options I have.

I don't get the point of relics in the current state of the game if they only become worth-using late in the patches / game.
We're getting most likely iLvl 400-405 Hydatos weapons by mid February, but people into high level did not need them to down Alphascape Savage, people can pretty much beat Ext primals with basic gear, and having a BiS weapon won't make you avoid wiping an alliance on Orbonne if you cannot space out those red markers on Thundergod.

We need to give them some relevance in game before we think about a funky way to forge them in my opinion.

What I want from the Relic...

1. No requiring crafting/gathering classes. If they want to add them as an alternative to get something, maybe as a faster one, that I could understand. Like the last step of ilvl 210 HW Relic, unless you had the required crafting and gathering classes to 60 or were willing to spend way more gil than the weapon would ever be worth, you couldn't do it until 3.38 (the quests were added 3.15, there was 8 months between there).

2. Quantifiable grinds, no RNG. If you want people to do a whole load of FATEs, make it require that. Don't make things a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% drop from FATEs.

3. Keep it up to date, don't only update the relic with 5.x5 patches, but with the release of new raids, new tomestones and what not to keep the relics actually relevant in ilvl. Nothing quite like downgrading back to your "legendary" weapon because it's months out of date.

Originally Posted by reivaxe

I want Eureka but without Pagos. Just take the advances and good from Eureka and make it like that from start to finish.

I actually like the concept of going somewhere to just DO RELIC stuff. I mean, in the open world I get very side tracked very easy.

When I go to Eureka I just focus on eureka and only do it for a bit. Enough to make progress until I feel like I'm good for the night and can return to the whirlwind of options I have.

This is also my main draw to Eureka. Everything you do there is contributing to the Relic while also getting you tomes and lockboxes. I dreaded the step in HW when I had to get HQ crafted materials and 1 million poetics or w/e it was. I dont craft, i dont gather; i fight stuff and I'm mostly poor. Eureka is well suited for me.