Thread: 4.5 WHM

A buff is better than nothing but sadly SE will stick there guns with WHM identity to be pure healer.It would be nice to be to see WHM do a lot raw DMG compare 2(currently)/3 others.

Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

It makes up for the MP that you're spending since you can use it more frequently, but as stated it's like WHM got shafted again. Just stop focusing on the healing aspect of WHM SE and just give us a proper damage buff.

I don't understand what this has to do with my comment about not needing MP reduction if you get more MP generation. But okay?
Besides, 230 potency per minute is a nice damage boost. Sure, it doesn't close the gap between the other healers, but it's 4.5, who cares, in 6 months it'll be irrelevant.

Personally I'm just glad that we are going to have a potency buff for assize (mainly for the MP gain) and a lower cooldown. WHM has MP management problems. I wonder if this will balance the WHM closer to SCH... now if only there was a better means of MP management for AST considering that trying to depend on RNG to get Ewer is beyong frustrating as well.

Originally Posted by Fyce

who cares, in 6 months it'll be irrelevant.

I think that's what people fear.

I am beyond disappointed with these buffs. I wish I had nice things to say about the job itself.

I'm surprised people still expect anything more than a pure healer out of SE. I honestly don't think it's such a bad design for some of the player base, and I'm willing to bet this is exactly why SE has ignored the vocal player base on this for so long (read: players who don't care about optimization and wouldn't stop to give feedback VS players who would < us). It makes sense in the context that WHM is basically your starter healer since the others are gated behind content. It also makes WHM one of the most comfortable healer to level etc. etc. Of course the class needs design changes but their narrative can be sound.

Anyways, I think this will give WHM a bit of extra DPS. Not really sure that's going to be enough though. Next to that this just smells of "we need to rework the class, wait until 5.0"

Originally Posted by EaMett

I'm surprised people still expect anything more than a pure healer out of SE. I honestly don't think it's such a bad design for some of the player base, and I'm willing to bet this is exactly why SE has ignored the vocal player base on this for so long (read: players who don't care about optimization and wouldn't stop to give feedback VS players who would < us). It makes sense in the context that WHM is basically your starter healer since the others are gated behind content. It also makes WHM one of the most comfortable healer to level etc. etc. Of course the class needs design changes but their narrative can be sound.

Anyways, I think this will give WHM a bit of extra DPS. Not really sure that's going to be enough though. Next to that this just smells of "we need to rework the class, wait until 5.0"

As I said in another topic, being easy to start on =/= being bad for any except of regular content. Look at PLD, for example. Easiest to learn tank job, but very sought after in high-end content and raiding groups because it's a very good job. Sorry, but people really need to get the idea out of their heads that it's somehow fine for WHM to forever be left on the sidelines because "it should be easy for beginners." The easier it gets into people's heads the better. Yes, it's good to have a job that's not as complex as others, to make it easier to learn the ropes. It's not good, however, if this translates into this job being barred from any part of the game by the community because of it...

I do get your general tenor with your post, though, and agree with it for the most part. I, too, think that the job should at least get a very major DPS buff, but it needs to be a buff that really makes the job worthwhile for statics, and I think that needs a really, really high DPS buff... which I'm not sure it will ever get, unless the defs finally pull their heads out of their asses and open their eyes to reality.

I am of the mind that the healer role is already by default more complex than the other roles. Even more so on controller. I can understand wanting a basic straightforward healer for the player base.
I've played a fair amount with people who either don't bother with savage content or have been on o9s since the start. It's with these players in mind that I can condone the path SE has been walking with WHM until now. (Even though I used to main WHM myself and was just as frustrated as the next with the state of the class). A healer that is essentially forced to only to worry about healing and mechanics is a godsend for some players.

Yeah WHM will always be unbalanced in a farm setting (less during progression) as long as they stick to the pure healer thing (which they have for the past what? 4 years now?). It's not that bad really, I haven't seen any lockouts in recent memory. But, regardless, right now the more important fact is that WHM is just outright clunky. It has no flow, clipping galore, instant GCDs that you can't fill, useless traits and gauge. That's what needs focus and is 5.0 material.

Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

Sorry, but people really need to get the idea out of their heads that it's somehow fine for WHM to forever be left on the sidelines because "it should be easy for beginners."

WHM's numbers in terms of players are actually not that far from AST (O9S, O10S, O11S). It's also the best healer for your everyday's roulettes, and performs well in Extreme content considering the overall lower skill level.
It's definitly not on the sidelines for a lot of content.