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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    So I scrambled to do all my overmelding prior to this patch and I can't seem to find any reliable information on what a "good" stat threshold is.

    As a non-specialist without food or tea, I'm sitting at 1701 CRA, 1663 CON, and 493 CP. I only have CP melds on my tools, so if I need some extra stats I can put them there, but I'm really nervous to even start as I don't have much gil to invest in failed crafts atm ;.; Thoughts?
    With food I barely meet the minimums as specialist, and made a full set of gear with my 4.3 macros. I have a 80-90% HQ rate on the materials from full NQ, and using those ingredients get 100% HQ on the gear easily.

    Stats with food: 1654/1601/522
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    Craft sims now have 4 star gear up. If accurate, it's even easier to max progress now than with Onishi but harder to max quality. For example, I can tweak my non specialist rotation to function with a careful Synth III replacing an Observe-Focused, and the quality drop from 4.3 is about 3k.

    Will have to test it a bit. But could end up changing the old macros a little.

    EDIT: Sims are currently somewhat inaccurate for 4 star.
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 09-29-2018 at 05:04 AM.

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    I thought, I could throw in one my rotations aswell. Maybe it will help someone or maybe someone can help me improving it (maybe with 12 less cp, so I don't need to use the medicine?) :P

    This is my specialist 4star 35 dura rotation from 0 HQ mats, I am currently using:

    CP: 556 (490 Base + Matcha HQ + Medicine NQ)
    Control: 1747 (1686 Base + Matcha HQ) // edited
    Craftsmanship: 1694

    /ac "Initial Preparations" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac "Specialty: Reflect" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /echo FINISH! s4star-35d-556cp 1/2 <se.2>

    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"

    Not sure if this rotation is optimal, though.
    I am mainly using this for the procoptodon leather, as both materials are bought with stones. And I didn't want to buy HQ mats or invest into a more expensive meld build.

    It produces like 23k quality. With cheap melds, I just sometimes overmelded a single level 5 materia and the rest is level 4.

    EDIT:

    CP cheaper version (thanks to Liam_Harper):

    CP: 540

    /ac "Initial Preparations" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac "Specialty: Reflect" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /echo FINISH! s4star-35d-540cp 1/2 <se.2>

    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II"

    It's almost the same quality (just around 600 less than above), but requires 16 less CP.
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    Last edited by Buuhuu; 10-03-2018 at 09:15 PM.

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    That's a rather impressive rotation. Outclasses the old Visuvius on quality.

    To cheapen it a bit on tea costs, try replacing Part 2 of your macro with:

    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>

    The differences are Manip I instead of II and dropping Ingenuity II in the finisher to a plain Ingenuity. I gave it a test ingame and despite sims being wonky and showing differently, I finished the craft comfortably 100% hq with nq mats with 1689 craft, 1728 control.

    I admit I'm not too fussed if a material comes out NQ occasionally and just use rotations that function off NQ tempura. Finished pieces are quite easy to HQ as long as least half of your materials are HQ.
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 10-03-2018 at 09:35 AM.

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    Thanks a lot! I tested it aswell and the quality difference is almost nothing, but with 16 CP less so I can get rid off that medicine . I edited my post to add that part.

    For my own crafts, I agree with you. I am not that unhappy, when material sometimes comes out NHQ, but if I want to sell them it kinda is (not to speak of the personal challenge to push the macro quality^^)
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    Aye, cheers for sharing. I agree the personal challenge of pushing quality makes it much more interesting.

    I came up with this modification for running off just NQ Tempura platter alone (cheap from Kugane vendor). It just about got 100% hq with nq mats for me.

    /ac "Initial Preparations" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac "Specialty: Reflect" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /echo Macro #1 complete <se.1>


    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Brow" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 10-03-2018 at 11:20 PM.

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    Good use of Inguenity II with focused touch and combined with the cheaper brow on specialist! This lowers the CP-Requirement again to 532 CP, but produces less quality. Which is fine, as I overdid it a little with my version (around 2k over the needed value).
    I cannot use the NQ Tempura Platter, though. My base control value is too low for this (1686) and I just reach around 91% (without any "good"s). But with NQ Matcha it works like a charm. I use the Matcha tea as standard buff food, so I don't have any problem to use this instead of the tempura platter, but I believe it's nice that my rotation could be modified in a way to work with this less CP

    EDIT: Though I prefer the 540 CP version from above, cause the quality is more reliable, if the macro encounters some bad excellent-poors before the finisher
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    Last edited by Buuhuu; 10-05-2018 at 04:45 AM.

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