White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[MicahZerrshia]

Yes that's what I thought too.

1.0 was funny. I really find funny they cling to the Goobbue so hard now. Back then ppl asked for Goobbue mounts often and then when they finally gave them to us, for free and with 0 effort outside of just talking to the Wandering Minstrel, the forums exploded with angry people who said it was the stupidest mount ever even though the community campaigned for it as one of the possible new mounts. Goobbue and Coeurl were the top 2 iirc. Now they wanna hold onto it like its gold. I was the first person on my server to get the mount and I sat there for a good amount of time listening to ppl raging about how stupid it was in shouts and says.

The tattoo and choco tho, thems off limits. That will even anger me, those are the items we were promised exclusivity to.

[Campi]

However, with White Ravens, it took hours of learning a fight (like someone else mentioned it was like ultimate raids now) and working with a static to execute the fight. This fight was about 25 - 30 minutes (depending on your group) and required a lot of execution and communication. Video for those who haven't seen the fight: https://youtu.be/HI8oib1o2_4

Like Ultimate Raids? ö.ö
This Fight just looks like a longer Casual Fight, nothing special.
Even Bosses in 24 Raids look harder : )

[Nestama]

It was more like an ex primal level of difficulty. Ultimate and even Savage where much harder. The hardest part about doing 1.0 Nael was finding a group for it having to shout in town for hours.

Had a feeling, but I was being generous since I can only watch and not experience. If we applied that exact fight into ARR-SB (fight unchanged, but with FFXIV's current battle system), the fight would be a joke. I even watched the Ifrit EX 1.0 fight and it seems the hardest mechanic in that fight is the animation lock (saw people doing a countdown thing to signal when you could use weapon skills).

And if what MicahZerrshia says is true, then SE aren't breaking any promises (with the earrings).

[LalaRu]

Special snowflakes going to melt?

OMG the special item (I never wear but I want nobody else have) is going to appear now in game to those lowly players. NO WAY!

OMG the Goobbue Mount (I had laughed of because I think it was stupid at the time but whatever) was given to those filthy 2.0 players? NO WAY!

Is hilarious to see some of those 1.0 players raging about losing "privileges". Do you feel like the aristocrats in France about two centuries ago?

[LyraKuroneko]

I don't see the problem, it doesn't change the accomplishment by the people that cleared it.
If else, they can share the story now that the item is well known to other players.

But i agree with the "should" have the fight too with the Minstrel, would have been fun ^^

[Noodle_Trinidad]

What is sad is, no value is placed on the fact a character is from 1.0 unless you got earrings and horns that others can't have.


Just imagine if they had decided to wipe the 1.0 data and start everyone fresh, i'd still be here but i know the entitled people wouldn't be.

To be fair using "entitled" isnt exactly the best way to counter the argument that some of our fellow 1.0 players have in regards to feeling cheated in the loss of their 1.0 Trial item. While I personally do not care if they release most of the Legacy items for the 2.0 playerbase I do understand the sting they feel, especially given my mood lately with the path this game is taking, still to not to go off track yes they are entitled in the same way you are entitled to your thoughts and criticisms for the game and the actions of the dev team. You must remember everyone in these forums are fellow paying members who pay actual money to keep playing this game which very much makes you and them "entitled" to certain things surrounding the game. Please don't try and dismiss any argument with this silly word.

Also had they wiped the data from 1.0 it would have set a bad precedent for the game since potential customers would look at the action and reconsider what would happen to newer players if the team can't even support those who stuck by them in their time of need.

Had a feeling, but I was being generous since I can only watch and not experience. If we applied that exact fight into ARR-SB (fight unchanged, but with FFXIV's current battle system), the fight would be a joke. I even watched the Ifrit EX 1.0 fight and it seems the hardest mechanic in that fight is the animation lock (saw people doing a countdown thing to signal when you could use weapon skills).

And if what MicahZerrshia says is true, then SE aren't breaking any promises (with the earrings).

You are correct, no promises have been broken. Personally I feel its fine to bring them back if they somehow associated it with the content at hand or a modern remake of the fight itself; maybe recycling the assets from Nael's fight in the coil to earn them. I think this is where the real issue is to be honest. The treatment of a reward from content was considered "hard" for 1.23 standards being given away as a trinket. Honestly I think that would be a fun and proper tribute into reintroducing the White Ravens into the game.

[Mhiro]

They're...earrings...I'd understand if it was something ya'll wore all the time but it isn't a title. It isn't a weapon skin. It isn't an exclusive piece of armor. It's a pair of goddamn earrings. I'm far more pissed off that the exclusive skins for the 2.0 relic were reintroduced as ilv350 crafted weapons, but even then I didn't care that much because none of the weapons had the radiance effect of the 2.0 relic.

THEY ARE EARRINGS.

Do they give stats that matter? No.
Are they level 370 or higher? No.
Are they even pretty looking or glow in the slightest? No.
Is their worth the same as your reduced sub, fancy chocobo and tattoo? Hell no.
Are they as cool as the 1.0 titles you and no one else can still wear? Not in the slightest.

Your take away from that experience of yours was supposed to be the fight itself, not these trashy earrings that probably went directly into the armoire as soon as you were able to store them. Their value is incredibly negligible compared to everything else you received as a 1.0 player. They literally chose the least valuable item and put it in as an anniversary reward to pay homage to 1.0. And guess what? When this event is over, anyone who joins the game after or doesn't do the event at all won't be able to get them unless they want to spent $7 because you know they're going to chuck these babies into the cash shop as they do with all event rewards a year after release. Or maybe they'll be nice and not do that, but regardless it's on the table now.

Anyway point is, just like with raids during their "Era of Relevance" the biggest reward is the experience of the content. Dev team cares little about in game rewards given which is shown in how gear progression works in this game. They care more about us enjoying the content itself and expect the content to be the biggest reward. It's unfortunate that recently they're failing to meet that goal of theirs, but it still stands. You got to see the fight. You got to see the fall of Dalamud and play all the exclusive little special things the team put out as the game came to its abrupt conclusion. And you still have other rewards that they will not be giving anyone else anytime soon that have vastly more value than a pair of ugly earrings. Like you honestly already have more blessings than you think you have.

[Jandor]

I like how people are saying it doesn't matter, they're just earrings, no one notices them anyway.

Surely if they're not valuable for their looks, and they're not valuable for their stats, then the only value they have is as a rare memento for 1.0 players who did the fight?

Doesn't feel like anyone benefits from this, upsetting some old 1.0 players in exchange for something the overwhelming majority of 2.0 players didn't know existed, didn't care about and most likely will never use.

[Luna-M]

the only value they have is as a rare memento for 1.0 players who did the fight? .

A fight we did.....6 years ago. We had our momento for 6 years. I don't understand why people cry so much salt about this tbh.

I see people, 1.0 vetarans throw out things like "GIVE THEM ULTIMATE WEAPONS AND TITLES NEXT YEAR" ... really? Gimme a break.

[Tiraelina]

Q: Do you have any plans to give a special item to players who continue to pay the subscription from now until 2.0?
A: First, you'll be able to enjoy and participate in the Seventh Umbral Era event. There'll be achievements related to that which won't be available later. There'll be achievement rewards, battles with the Garlean Empire, and other items that will be exclusive to that period.

On top of that, since we introduced the mount system in 1.19, we're looking at whether we could gift players with special mounts. The development team is performing a bunch of tests for various mounts. Among them, however, we're thinking about giving away a goobbue as a special mount for those who play the current version. He won't available later, so don't miss it.

Upon the release of patch 1.22, an invitation will be extended to holders of inactive accounts to return to Eorzea for ten days, completely free of charge. A great many things have changed since the game first launched, in no small part due to player feedback. By hosting this campaign, we hope that those currently taking a break from Eorzea will be enticed into coming back to see the improvements with their own eyes, as well as experience the never-to-be-repeated drama of the Seventh Umbral Era.

Q: A lot of people are saying that they tried to clear “The Raven, Nevermore” but couldn’t manage to before the end. So, will we be able to challenge “The Raven, Nevermore” in ARR?
A: This content was made for our current players and was only intended for 1.0. It would also clash with the main story if it were still playable.

From ARR_

I know that "Items obtained through events associated with the coming of the Seventh Umbral Era, such as over-aspected clusters" are not going to be available in ARR. But I was just wondering if the White Ravens obtained via Rivenroad (Hard) are considered in this category.

After all, the Imperial gear obtainable from Castrum Novum are going to be available in ARR, despite Castrum Novum being part of the Seventh Umbral Era plotline.

So I would love for a Rep to clarify (not user speculation, sorry) whether or not the White Ravens count as an unobtainable item in ARR. Just so I know if I should stop trying to force people to do the fight, and do other things peacefully.

Sorry for the delay while we got confirmation for you all -- the White Ravens will not be obtainable in A Realm Reborn.

They started giving out old seasonal event items almost immediately, so becoming unobtainable never really meant anything.

I'll just leave this here.