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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    People on trial accounts can't use /tell. They also can't shout, trade, or use the market board.
    If they really can't use /shout, that means that all the spammers that show up Limsa are paid accounts.

    I feel like they have to be getting these accounts for free somehow, whether through credit card fraud or some other means because I seriously doubt they actually sell enough gil to cover the sub fees for several thousand bots on a weekly basis.
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    Here's an example of how I know where the bots are:

    (This pic is 10 days old, if you can even pick out what the bot names are) These are a stack of Thaumaturges standing on EXACTLY the same spot.


    Name censored because they still come up in the lodestone, 4 day old screenshot. That's a Level 1 Gladiator who stands in the same spot with no FC, on several different days, just within reach of the FC chest and the bots behind the wall.


    17 day old screenshot, same guy.


    Level 38 Aetheryte, all wearing the same gear, same button mash fc, same <noun>+2 letter button mash names, same appearance.


    The bot that was standing here, 2 days ago, was using a bunch of items consecutively for a few minutes before disappearing.


    Same location 30days ago


    Same Location, level 60 bots, 37 days ago.


    23 days ago, stack of bots in the Vesper Bay area


    Bots behind the FC chest in Ul'dah - Steps of Nald


    Bot underneath NPC in GC area, Ul'dah - Steps of Nald

    With the exception of the last one, all the same character model. I have more screenshots of the RMT bots in places, but it's the same pattern.
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  3. #23
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    Wait...level 60 bots? Are they stepping up their game now? That's a disturbing thought.

    I don't think even SB is going to be safe from them pretty soon.

    EDIT: I just did a player search and spotted some on Cactaur. They're not in a FC and there's only four of them (So far...) operating out of the inn in Ul'dah, so I have a hunch it might be a private thing rather then a large-scale operation.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Wait...level 60 bots?

    Are they stepping up their game now? That's a disturbing thought.
    That's how I know they have to be paid accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    I think that recently, the devs might have disabled their ability to send messages in /say as well, judging from the amount of players in Brayflox and below dungeons who don't type back when others ask them questions/try to give them advice regarding their skill usage, but the players are clearly behaving/gesturing as if they are listening.
    I'd certainly hope they don't disable /say for trial accounts! It's prettymuch all they have. It was terrible as a new player not being able to respond to people who sent me tells. (Even /r to reply is disabled.) I'd have to try to find the person in-game so I could speak to them within hearing range.

    People "listening but not responding" might just be PS4 players without a keyboard connected.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Here's an example of how I know where the bots are:

    (This pic is 10 days old, if you can even pick out what the bot names are) These are a stack of Thaumaturges standing on EXACTLY the same spot.
    That is multi-boxing. That alone is not against the rules. If those same people use exploits, hacks or try to sell gill for real money, then they are in trouble. You didn't show that they are the same people spamming rmt sites.
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    If you've ever actually seen these guys before, you'd know they'll go flying away/disappear right after they're done talking with the NPC so yes, they are hackers and botters, not innocent multi-boxers.

    Though honestly the gibberish names should be enough of an indicator, unless you seriously know somebody named Icxcvsd Drupfsaqx or something along similar.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    That is multi-boxing. That alone is not against the rules. If those same people use exploits, hacks or try to sell gill for real money, then they are in trouble. You didn't show that they are the same people spamming rmt sites.
    The spam messages are from a completely different bots. Those bots in front of vorsaile, are all standing on exactly the same XYZ coordinates. Floating point coordinates to 6 decimal places with Noun+2button mash characters.

    They "teleported" to that position, they didn't walk there.

    According to my notes:

    ***horsegs Dru****mx, level 21. 27 bots standing in the exact location:
    D**qf Dxg*p
    Knd **f*p
    *h*tmh Brnvrf*
    Jqz Gwt*rn*lr*m
    Zg Wn*c**nh*r
    D*mp*r*r D*l*s*r*sx
    C*l*cch C*r*n**n*k
    Bh*m*hd Bl*bb*rql
    H*l*z*n*cc H*ggl*r*ld
    Lspvf*nw* Cslk*f*xb
    B**t**xt B*nk*l*njm
    D*c*r**k* D*l*m*xs
    D*m*s*t**r *n*ptxb
    *nh*l*ntrl J*d*r*pw
    F**gn*ng*b Fl*rt*ngjf
    K*ff***h*m K*r*s*nzt
    *d**t*smt* *n*rm*s*t
    K*r**t*nkj K*r*nt*dr
    F*sc*d Fl*t*g*m*
    B*tt*rsp* B*nd*ngpf
    D*v*l*smzs D*s*l*k*gc
    D*sh*rs*gs Dr*p*t*mqx
    G*r*nt*l** G*th*smbg
    *s*n*nt** **sh*rhr
    Cl***shmz C*p**n*v*
    *r*n**dw* *sh*ttd
    Cl**m*z C*d*c*scq

    Please tell me you see the naming pattern.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    If you've ever actually seen these guys before, you'd know they'll go flying away/disappear right after they're done talking with the NPC so yes, they are hackers and botters, not innocent multi-boxers.

    Though honestly the gibberish names should be enough of an indicator, unless you seriously know somebody named Icxcvsd Drupfsaqx or something along similar.
    If they are doing that then they should be reported. Really why is this being discussed here? This is pretty much a social forum.

    I've known plenty of people who really don't care what they name their characters and very few names in this game correspond to real life names. Multi-boxers will often start with one name they want and name each of their clones the same thing with one letter changed, with some ending up as gibberish. Some just use random characters cause they don't care.

    The spammers I've seen have game generated names. The random ones you get from the dice.

    The point is to focus on the real crimes and the real evidence. "There's five identical characters with with weird names!" is not evidence of a crime. Characters teleporting around at will, regardless of number or name, is.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    The spam messages are from a completely different bots. Those bots in front of vorsaile, are all standing on exactly the same XYZ coordinates. Floating point coordinates to 6 decimal places with Noun+2button mash characters.

    They "teleported" to that position, they didn't walk there.

    According to my notes:

    ***horsegs Dru****mx, level 21. 27 bots standing in the exact location:
    D**qf Dxg*p
    Knd **f*p
    *h*tmh Brnvrf*
    Jqz Gwt*rn*lr*m
    Zg Wn*c**nh*r
    D*mp*r*r D*l*s*r*sx
    C*l*cch C*r*n**n*k
    Bh*m*hd Bl*bb*rql
    H*l*z*n*cc H*ggl*r*ld
    Lspvf*nw* Cslk*f*xb
    B**t**xt B*nk*l*njm
    D*c*r**k* D*l*m*xs
    D*m*s*t**r *n*ptxb
    *nh*l*ntrl J*d*r*pw
    F**gn*ng*b Fl*rt*ngjf
    K*ff***h*m K*r*s*nzt
    *d**t*smt* *n*rm*s*t
    K*r**t*nkj K*r*nt*dr
    F*sc*d Fl*t*g*m*
    B*tt*rsp* B*nd*ngpf
    D*v*l*smzs D*s*l*k*gc
    D*sh*rs*gs Dr*p*t*mqx
    G*r*nt*l** G*th*smbg
    *s*n*nt** **sh*rhr
    Cl***shmz C*p**n*v*
    *r*n**dw* *sh*ttd
    Cl**m*z C*d*c*scq

    Please tell me you see the naming pattern.
    You are totally missing my point.
    (also I believe that spot is a place the game puts you after a certain story quest)
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    Last edited by MsQi; 07-12-2018 at 04:01 PM.

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