Question about war strat and it's pros and cons

[Sunspawn]

Preface: I am talking about the O5S strategy of having a warrior be the only one to go into the train for the ghost phase, use IR to kill the ghost in 2 GCDs and coming out before the party suffocates.

My question is - was it ever, at least roughly, calculated how much potency is being traded in this strat? Losing a full IR phase seems pretty big for the war and I am not entirely sure what is the exact gain in pulling the last phase a few gcds earlier from not having to kill the ghosts.

[DaulBan]

The trade is that any job going in to do the skip (most often WAR because it's the easiest) is that they might lose a small amount of DPS compared to everyone being out and ready to attack the boss at the same time. It makes lining up for buffs easier (since people aren't getting out of their ghosts and running up at the same time) and probably more importantly for pugs means that the healers don't have partially damaged tanks/dps about to get hit with the meteor markers before they can get a heal out.

WAR loses a lot of DPS mostly for the convenience of the group. RDM/SAM(?)/NIN can all do it with sufficient ilvl and with a lot less penalty to their DPS compared to 3 IR FCs and autos that the WAR is losing. Not that Pugs care nor that most DPS would bother learning to do the skips themselves.

[Canadane]

Using the strat actually gets your IR in sync with the ghost that pushes you from the side. So no need to hide behind a ghost box.
It's pretty awesome overall.

[ImDingDing]

It's always a group dps gain if only one get in instead of 8, it could be better if you let the RDM or NIN get in.

[Zyneste]

For RDM there really isnt a DPS loss at all for doing ghost. You get more opportunity to do more damage than if you sat outside doing nothing waiting for the WAR strat. Vercure to proc Dual. Swiftcast right before the ghost grabs you. VerAero. Fleche. Contre. Verthunder. Corps and pray. lol

[whiskeybravo]

Nah, the biggest thing is missing IR Decimate spam on adds. But as Canadane mentions, doing the ghost cheese will at least align your IR with the upcoming knockback ghost. I still know at least 1 War tank that refuses to do the cheese because of his connection probs, but in general your just trading personal dps for raid dps. If you're going for top logs than you'd need to make someone else do the cheese. Otherwise just suck it up and do it for the group :P

[Ekimmak]

Nah, the biggest thing is missing IR Decimate spam on adds. But as Canadane mentions, doing the ghost cheese will at least align your IR with the upcoming knockback ghost. I still know at least 1 War tank that refuses to do the cheese because of his connection probs, but in general your just trading personal dps for raid dps. If you're going for top logs than you'd need to make someone else do the cheese. Otherwise just suck it up and do it for the group :P

Well, I'd rather not kill the group due to my atrocious internet, personally, but that's just me.