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[RLofOBFL]

It's not about who cleared ultimate, it's about slamming your face into it and trying to clear it. It's content for a lot of people. I have 10-15ish people I know going at it currently, only one is actually at enrage, and that one is the only one to clear the previous ultimate. That's also the only reason he still plays in this catch up patch.

Anyway if they stop making ult it's fine to me but the issue I have is ...if they're stopping it for the expac, what will 4.5 have to replace that content? My bet is nothing.

[Asiragan]

I really wonder how their development schedule works for them to say they will stop adding ultimate mid-expansion. I would have though that the planning was made ahead of time, maybe at the very start of the expansion, but it looks like they are adapting things on the fly which is really worrisome to me.

I don't really care for ultimate but they've been cutting down content like that since HW, and we didn't really get anything in return for it. If they are cutting Ultimate now, can we really expect something in return in the future?

[Jennika]

Anyway if they stop making ult it's fine to me but the issue I have is ...if they're stopping it for the expac, what will 4.5 have to replace that content? My bet is nothing.

If they're just going to make more [tomestone-farming] dungeons then don't bother. Don't get me wrong, they make good dungeons, but after the first couple runs through it just turns into work. I'm so bored of of the tomestone system, myself anyway.

[Corue]

you know what this game needs? More dungeons that ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE LAST 50 DUNGEONS.... lol

If SE'a answer to alternative content is recycling Diadem I'll take repetitive dungeons any day of the week.

[Remedi]

Disagree vehementhly with this decision.
Ultimate is what essentially made the current pve scene workable for everyone, removing one piece of the puzzle kills everything imho. While it's true as some have said that they can simply focus more on the coming expansion, I still believe that it would be a much needed life injection to the final patch of the expansion, which frankly won't have much to do for itself.
As such I hope they reconsider this

[Alleo]

they also worry about player's health - when they hear stories of 21 hour/day prog and forgoing sleep to down these things that makes them rethink how many these they should put out.

Which means that they heard wrong informations because the world first group only did the 21 hour on their last day of prog and had quite a "normal" schedule for the rest of the days. So they did not do the 21 for five days. Also interesting how its again the playerbase that seemingly told them that its too much to handle so many Ultimates...I wonder if this is another "JP wanted Greed" point because I cant remember any post that stated how this is harsh for them.

[Remedi]

Ye about that too, I get annoyed how quickly that 21 hours raid prog got around, I was watching mrhappy stream when zeppe said that he said he wanted the group to raid 21 h the last day and they had pretty much tame raiding hours otherwise.
It's really distrubing me how some rumors gets tossed around so easily without anyone sourcing them

[Alleo]

Ye about that too, I get annoyed how quickly that 21 hours raid prog got around, I was watching mrhappy stream when zeppe said that he said he wanted the group to raid 21 h the last day and they had pretty much tame raiding hours otherwise.
It's really distrubing me how some rumors gets tossed around so easily without anyone sourcing them

And that the devs seemingly also just heard those rumors instead of the actual truth. Maybe thats how the "greed only" change happened too.

[AxlStream]

This is just SE caving in to the casuals that complain about Ultimate being a waste of ressources while not even denting current EX/Savage fights. A shame really.

[Rita1989]

Which means that they heard wrong informations because the world first group only did the 21 hour on their last day of prog.

You realize the devs can easily monitor how long people are spending on Ultimate through the game itself so they dont need to listen to rumors.

If I had to guess the participation was even lower then they expected and its already extremely niche content and beside maybe a couple of days of interest through streamers this content is completely irrelevant to over 99% of the population and once the hardcore raiders get through the fight in a couple of weeks the content basically becomes dead.

Also even though it reuses assets I imagine it basically requires the full time of one of their better battle designs to properly tune and balance the encounter.

I just hope with the elimination of Ultimate they can do something special leading into the next expansion as 3.55 was kind of a lame lead in to an expansion.