Thief, Musketeer, Dark Knight, and Arcanist

[Sidious]

I think that is more of an issue with your mindset and gaming background then in actual problem with the game. Once you acclimate yourself to XIV, you'll stop needing to identify a person with just one job and start thinking of them more as a Swiss Army Knife.

I don't *have* to like swiss army knives.

[HokSeven]

I might just be in the minority here...but I still think the idea of classes and jobs just seems redundant...we have alrdy defined the roles that the classes play...we don't need jobs to do that...and the classes are flexible enough as they are, I mean what exactly is the difference between a cnj concentrating on healing as opposed to a whm...they're both going to do the same thing...I won't invite a cnj to dd or be a magic dd...because thats not where it strengths are...
I do think a system like FFT/FFTA would work extremely well or just giving classes all of these job abilities...But like I said I'm prob in the minority here.

This. and this is why the job system did not make sense to me. I will invite a CNJ to a party cause I want him as a healer. I don't care if he's a WHM or not. Hell, for the current content (and how easy it's) I don't need him to specialize as WHM, it's better if he can get abilities from other jobs.

The only job that make sense, the ONLY one, is BRD branching out of ARC. That does completely change the class, and that is how it should have been for the rest.

CNJ to red mage and THM to blue mage yes. but to WHM and BLM? they are and always were a WHM and a BLM... wtf does the job system do? add more abilities? seriously? Then again, that puts the future RDM into a peculiar position if he have to lvl CNJ and THM.. does he take CNJ base? or THM base? or both? or do you get the choice? (RDM with healing or nuking tendencies, hey it's actually a nice idea. Throw in a GLA in there and make him with melee tendencies)

[Powercow]

This. and this is why the job system did not make sense to me. I will invite a CNJ to a party cause I want him as a healer. I don't care if he's a WHM or not. Hell, for the current content (and how easy it's) I don't need him to specialize as WHM, it's better if he can get abilities from other jobs.

The only job that make sense, the ONLY one, is BRD branching out of ARC. That does completely change the class, and that is how it should have been for the rest.

CNJ to red mage and THM to blue mage yes. but to WHM and BLM? they are and always were a WHM and a BLM... wtf does the job system do? add more abilities? seriously? Then again, that puts the future RDM into a peculiar position if he have to lvl CNJ and THM.. does he take CNJ base? or THM base? or both? or do you get the choice? (RDM with healing or nuking tendencies, hey it's actually a nice idea. Throw in a GLA in there and make him with melee tendencies)

The old idea (not sure if it's still the current plan) was to make it so Jobs didn't have access to cross-class abilities, i.e. no using Cure on a Monk. Not sure if the plan has changed, since that was hinted at a pretty long time ago.

And current content being easy enough doesn't mean the two new dungeons, which are designed for Jobs and not Classes, are going to be.

[Rukkirii]

Hey gang,

I wanted to step in and let you all know that what was written in ConnectOn interview were just a few of the random ideas (or delusions ) that Yoshida was kicking around in his head, none of which are finalized concepts.

I just wanted to give you a heads up so you don't get too involved one way or the other about what you've been reading!

[Bowen]

Hey gang,

I wanted to step in and let you all know that what was written in ConnectOn interview were just a few of the random ideas (or delusions ) that Yoshida was kicking around in his head, none of which are finalized concepts.

I just wanted to give you a heads up so you don't get too involved one way or the other about what you've been reading!

/sad face
It seems like you are the bearer of bad news all the time. QQ

[AreeyaJaidee]

This. and this is why the job system did not make sense to me. I will invite a CNJ to a party cause I want him as a healer. I don't care if he's a WHM or not. Hell, for the current content (and how easy it's) I don't need him to specialize as WHM, it's better if he can get abilities from other jobs.

The only job that make sense, the ONLY one, is BRD branching out of ARC. That does completely change the class, and that is how it should have been for the rest.

CNJ to red mage and THM to blue mage yes. but to WHM and BLM? they are and always were a WHM and a BLM... wtf does the job system do? add more abilities? seriously? Then again, that puts the future RDM into a peculiar position if he have to lvl CNJ and THM.. does he take CNJ base? or THM base? or both? or do you get the choice? (RDM with healing or nuking tendencies, hey it's actually a nice idea. Throw in a GLA in there and make him with melee tendencies)

You know... your concept makes a lot more sense compared to... a development team that has lived and breathed the exact details of not only current content, but the future aspects of *their* game.

Why so quick to pass judgement without knowledge of the whole big picture?

It's like claiming intelligence for telling a person who can see the future that your opinion of their skill completely negates said skills existence.

Comical forums are comical.

The crew at SE need "helpful" input, not a group of highly ego maniacle narcissists telling them the color blue is spelled BLUE.

We don't know how their Job designs scale to future battle content. So how can we pretend to predetermine the success of mechanics we have yet to experience?

Be smart and wait instead of bashing every new thing when it doesn't meet personal taste and hasn't even been fully delivered.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

*huggins~!* :3

[Claire_Pendragon]

I hope yoshida doesn't take PLD away from us if we wanna take up DRK.
Taking away the best tank job option from us will nearly kill my interest.

Wanting a DD option for GLA was for those who normally tank, but find themselves in a situation of too many GLAs.

as for having classes getting a 2nd job, I do like the sound of that.

[HokSeven]

You know... your concept makes a lot more sense compared to... a development team that has lived and breathed the exact details of not only current content, but the future aspects of *their* game.

Why so quick to pass judgement without knowledge of the whole big picture?

It's like claiming intelligence for telling a person who can see the future that your opinion of their skill completely negates said skills existence.

Comical forums are comical.

The crew at SE need "helpful" input, not a group of highly ego maniacle narcissists telling them the color blue is spelled BLUE.

We don't know how their Job designs scale to future battle content. So how can we pretend to predetermine the success of mechanics we have yet to experience?

Be smart and wait instead of bashing every new thing when it doesn't meet personal taste and hasn't even been fully delivered.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

*huggins~!* :3

I'm sorry, but when did the development team at SE was good for THIS game? (the new one, maybe) but the downfall of the old team was exactly your mentality. That THEY know better than everyone else, they don't need input from anyone else. AND guess where that got the game.

I wasn't bashing the system (that yes I don't know about) but I said it did not make sense to me (as of now).

This thread was about the future classes or jobs, so I stated what my concern was about the RDM (my job in FFXI). Are they gonna make it cool enough that I can go RDM from both THM and CNJ? or add another melee job? because a RDM is suppose to be a jack of all trades. I hope they do and not go by what Yoshida's example of RDM being THM and CNJ (YES, I understand it was an example only)

[redmage]

Hey gang,

I wanted to step in and let you all know that what was written in ConnectOn interview were just a few of the random ideas (or delusions ) that Yoshida was kicking around in his head, none of which are finalized concepts.

I just wanted to give you a heads up so you don't get too involved one way or the other about what you've been reading!

The dream is collapsing!


But seriously though, thanks for the clarification =) still excited to hear any news on new classes coming up.

[lordvr]

Paladin is actually called paradin （paladin) in FFIV in Japanese. Naito on the other hand is the knight job from ff III actually, which was essentially the same thing in that game, a warrior with low level whm and cover. So the term XI / XIV is using is based on FF III and not FFIV.