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  1. #741
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    StouterTaru's Avatar
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    Ok that's good to know. Can a sub with a range of 1 even go on an expedition? lol
    The shortest expedition is 16, so anything under 20 range is non-viable.
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  2. #742
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    Dranyari's Avatar
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    Synnove Greywolfe
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Hey guys, hoping to get a little advice as I’m still relatively new to running subs.

    My ultimate goal right now is eventually getting Deep-Sea Site 7 unlocked and going after Abroader Otters for myself and the rest of my FC. Peeking through some of the last few pages of the thread, I’ve got some ideas on what sub parts I’m going to need once I’m ready to start sending the subs to Deep-Sea Site 7.

    For reference, our first sub is currently Rank 27 and kitted out in full Unkiu, while our second sub is at about Rank 10 (not at home rn so can’t check) and in full Shark. At the moment I’m not too worried about sub builds insomuch as I am about unlocking sectors and ranking up our sub fleet. We have all sectors through Cobalt Shoals unlocked, save for Offender’s Rot, which finally leads me to my question: is exploring and unlocking sectors purely RNG dependent, or is there a threshold stat I need to be meeting? If so, which stat? After I got Cobalt Shoals unlocked early last week, I haven’t had any luck unlocking a new sector!
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  3. #743
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    usually higher surveillance will get you new sector unlocks but ultimately it is rng.
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  4. #744
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    Dranyari's Avatar
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    Synnove Greywolfe
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    usually higher surveillance will get you new sector unlocks but ultimately it is rng.
    Well, I'll keep throwing my subs at the Umbrella Narrow and the Unidentified Derelict then and badger the rest of the FC into mats gathering. Thank you!
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  5. #745
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    Auric Seagard
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by yosment View Post
    If my purpose is to get crafting and gathering materia VIs, what submarine part combination shall I aim for? Is it the same as to get Otter?
    We don't know too much about farming those materia yet but judging from past experience with the airships, yes, you'll want to set up the same as for Otter because those will be rare drops. So go for a high surveillance and favor for best results. You won't need to worry about retrieval as all that seems to do is increase the size of the stack of items you get, and rare drops don't stack -- in general you just get one of those at a time no matter how high or low your retrieval is, so you're not going to get a stack of 10 Abroader Otters no matter what. Take enough range to get to your desired sector(s) and consider speed to be your second dump stat after retrieval.

    Can I ask why you want to farm those with your subs instead of just doing red and yellow scrips though?
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    Last edited by AuricSeagard; 02-28-2019 at 05:47 AM.

  6. #746
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    Auric Seagard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dranyari View Post
    At the moment I’m not too worried about sub builds insomuch as I am about unlocking sectors and ranking up our sub fleet. We have all sectors through Cobalt Shoals unlocked, save for Offender’s Rot, which finally leads me to my question: is exploring and unlocking sectors purely RNG dependent, or is there a threshold stat I need to be meeting? If so, which stat? After I got Cobalt Shoals unlocked early last week, I haven’t had any luck unlocking a new sector!
    For unlocking sectors, emphasize surveillance and speed so you can hit the unlocking sectors as often as possible. Since it is ultimately RNG-based, you want as many rolls as you can get in the least amount of time, so you might want to build a "Scout sub" specialized for sector finding. Favor might help but we have no solid evidence on that either way. Couldn't hurt though. Send your scout sub straight to each unlocking sector and straight home again as fast as possible; get your turnaround time down to once per day or less.
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  7. #747
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    Leira Sunwolf
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    I've just gotten "Kamacite Ore" from Flickering Dip with only 120 Surveillance. I believe the consensus before was you needed 135 minimum? This may change things.



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  8. #748
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    Lycelle Deanu
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    Leviathan
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    CSySySy is build, finally got us an otter! ship was fully repaired before sending
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  9. #749
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    Prince Nuada
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Leira View Post
    I've just gotten "Kamacite Ore" from Flickering Dip with only 120 Surveillance. I believe the consensus before was you needed 135 minimum? This may change things.



    Great... thank you for sharing this. I had been testing a couple things on my alt character.
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  10. #750
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    Lucky Starz
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    Odin
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AuricSeagard View Post
    We don't know too much about farming those materia yet but judging from past experience with the airships, yes, you'll want to set up the same as for Otter because those will be rare drops. So go for a high surveillance and favor for best results. You won't need to worry about retrieval as all that seems to do is increase the size of the stack of items you get, and rare drops don't stack -- in general you just get one of those at a time no matter how high or low your retrieval is, so you're not going to get a stack of 10 Abroader Otters no matter what. Take enough range to get to your desired sector(s) and consider speed to be your second dump stat after retrieval.

    Can I ask why you want to farm those with your subs instead of just doing red and yellow scrips though?
    I do not have that much time to do scrips cause can only play the game a few hours a week at the moment. However, if I can use the submersibles to collect some VIs for 5.0 then it will be great. As for the build, I used the calculator from this forum and get this one, will this be sth I can experiment? #409 Coelacanth-Class Pressure Hull Unkiu-class Stern Unkiu-class Bow Syldra-class Bridge 49 (Component) 170 (Surveillance) 30 (Retrieval) 70 (Speed) 95 (Range) 120 (Favor)
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    Last edited by yosment; 02-28-2019 at 05:27 PM.

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