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  1. #1
    Player
    dragongirlelly's Avatar
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    Character
    Elly Solumun
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70

    Samurai is not okay!

    Tell us something we don't know already, am I right? 4.2 has clear winners and losers, and with the changes to MNK (a lack thereof for SAM) a lot of people are turning in the blade for a pair of boxing gloves. In fairness, they finally get their expansion that they were promised, but their fellow striker remains an undesired job.

    The devs seem very scared to give SAM the power that it needs to be more competitive. Call me crazy, but I think it could use a bit of a boost! We could simply boost its raw DPS, give it a different form of utility.. Maybe make it the sole provider of the slashing debuff like DRG is the sole provider of the piercing debuff? Heck, giving SAM the piercing debuff would be good as well..

    I guess they don't see a need to change the job because people play it due to being an easy to access DPS that pulls "big numbers" on its own? The casters are also no longer in such a good spot.. but even they have it marginally better(even if they're overshadowed by MNK).
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    Altera's Avatar
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    Bergen
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    Character
    Chandani Aranka
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    SAM and BLM are in the same tub, dragged behind our Yachtcruising superiors The Utility Jobs aka Meta :/

    Either SE drops this whole Selfish DPS and Utility DPS, and give SAM and BLM their own powerful raid buff, or buff our selfish DPS to compete with the raidwide DPS the Utility bring.

    I think i remember Yoshida stated that DRGs damage was lower than others due to it had so much Utility, only to backpedal on their words.

    I personally hope any ideas the Devs has for bringing new Jobs in next expansion gets put on hiatus and focus properly sorting out the Jobs this game already has. Drop Jobs, give new Races instead as a substitute imo

    (9)
    Last edited by Altera; 01-29-2018 at 02:26 AM.

  3. #3
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    george357's Avatar
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    Character
    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    well same old same old each job crys make me better then those other jobs and when they do it starts all over again with hey you need to buff this job now because that job you buffed is now better then mine waa waa balance will never be part of this game because everytime a change is made someone else crys change my job.
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  4. #4
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    Greywolfamakir's Avatar
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    Character
    Greywolf Amakir
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Samurai is currently dead, and it will be worst with 4.2 and monk's changes, so Im sorry for ppl playing Samurai, but Samurai wont be one of the best jobs in the game.
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  5. #5
    Player
    Altera's Avatar
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    Character
    Chandani Aranka
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Patch 5.0 - Due to undesired or bloated class system, we will remove some jobs to make room for new ones to take their place. Plz look forward to it
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  6. #6
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    Silver_Blade's Avatar
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    Character
    Ellder Sage
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    The devs either aren't paying attention or don't care because their are massive imbalances.
    NIN still has the best CD in the game with only a 60 second CD while BLM has nothing.
    At least SAM can bring slash debuff if you don't have a warrior. Oh wait, of course you have a warrior because DRK is broken.
    If a class isn't going to have any utility they have to do significantly more DPS than classes that do otherwise they are worthless.
    The same goes for a tank with no utility and the weakest defense. If they aren't doing significantly more DPS then they are worthless.
    Alternatively lower the DPS of classes with such good utility like NIN BRD MCH and DRG. Otherwise BLM SAM and DRK are dead weight and it is not fun to play as a class you know is hurting your groups. Even a crappy buff like RDM is enough to keep them for being a waste of a slot.
    I don't understand how they can let such glaring imbalance go unchanged.
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  7. #7
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Character
    Shiru Elysia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Raw DPS only doesn't work anymore with all boost every class can provide.

    It used to before. But things have changed, the game has evolved.

    Until the day they understand that, classes like SAM and BLM will suffer.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Bevelle, Besaid Island
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    Character
    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by george357 View Post
    well same old same old each job crys make me better then those other jobs and when they do it starts all over again with hey you need to buff this job now because that job you buffed is now better then mine waa waa balance will never be part of this game because everytime a change is made someone else crys change my job.
    this is the most honest and most truly post I ever read in this forum <3
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  9. #9
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    Caitlyn's Avatar
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    Character
    Geistherz Gungnir
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Blade View Post
    NIN still has the best CD in the game with only a 60 second CD
    And the lowest personal DPS for all melee classes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Blade View Post
    Alternatively lower the DPS of classes with such good utility like NIN BRD MCH and DRG
    Yeah, just nerf all utility classes and ignore the fact, that those utilities also boost SAM and BLM DPS, while getting nothing from them in return. MCH for example is only that strong in META groups. Having a party with SAM, BLM and RDM is pain for every MCH.

    So, you re not ok in having the highest personal DPS just by pressing 1-2-3-Setsugekka, while giving nothing to your party? Well, lets nerf SAM's personal DPS to the ground (less than BRD) and give him tons of utility. Happy now?


    PS: MCH and SMN got nerfed. SAM stays untouched.
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    Last edited by Caitlyn; 01-29-2018 at 07:56 PM.

  10. #10
    Player
    Kaimishi's Avatar
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    Character
    Leto Gt
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    I saw a streamer yesterday, main samourai, carrying an o4s farm but then got kicked after the kill to be replace by a ninja.
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