A potential fix for Tornado Kick

[wereotter]

Make it an AOE with that effect maybe? We need more AOE attacks in general and that would make monk have it's niche places to apply vuln up in situations where ninja can not. Also maybe make it cost some set number of chakras (and allow us to have more than 5 for that matter, like bank 7 and this would take two)

[SpeckledBurd]

Exactly this, Riddle of Earth has effectively removed the extremely niche window in which we used tornado kick by allowing us to extend our GL3 instead of having to dump it into tornado kick.

To my memory there isn't a single time where Tornado kick can be used to full effect (perhaps there's 1 use)

It's worth noting that Riddle of Earth is all that while also being extremely unreliable or outright stupid as a means of renewing your stacks. Most commonly you'll lose your GL3 because you were too far into your combo and there's not enough time left on it for the hit to reach you. But you can also have it fail to work because there's a Scholar in the party and they adlo'd too hard. OR it could also be necessary for you to take damage from an avoidable AOE in order to keep them such as during Shinryu. It's a bad skill all around and they should have just made Greased Lightning remain up whenever you have a Coeurl/Raptor/Opo Opo form up like Black Mage. There's no reason for Monk to be completely fucked in this way.

As for Tornado Kick it should be an AOE chakra dump.

[Remedi]

The fact that, after somewhat improving the chackra gaining, they didn't add another chakra dump was disappointing to say the least

[Fjola]

It's worth noting that Riddle of Earth is all that while also being extremely unreliable or outright stupid as a means of renewing your stacks. Most commonly you'll lose your GL3 because you were too far into your combo and there's not enough time left on it for the hit to reach you. But you can also have it fail to work because there's a Scholar in the party and they adlo'd too hard. OR it could also be necessary for you to take damage from an avoidable AOE in order to keep them such as during Shinryu. It's a bad skill all around and they should have just made Greased Lightning remain up whenever you have a Coeurl/Raptor/Opo Opo form up like Black Mage. There's no reason for Monk to be completely fucked in this way.

As for Tornado Kick it should be an AOE chakra dump.

Huh i actually really like that idea, make formshift work like transpose for BLM and make TK an AoE chakra dump, you're onto something there.

[Deceptus]

Personally I'd like to see it be the 2nd button on the monk AOE combo. You know, tornado kick, a circular kick.

[BucklesTrespen]

Tornado Kick - Removes all 3 GL stacks as per usual and grants the Monk the ROLLING THUNDER buff (duration 30 seconds).

NEW ABILITY:
Hurricane Kick (lv 64)
XYZ potency. 60 second CD.
Additional Effect.
Consumes ROLLING THUNDER. Grants the Monk 3 stacks of GL.

Remove Riddle of Earth. This can replace it as our level 64 skill.

The benefits of something like this is are:

1) Far more reliable at keeping GL than RoE because this does not take into consideration our current GL timer. It's a flat 30 seconds to use Hurricane Fist, covering most boss jumps. And even if we don't get to attack in time, we've still used Tornado Kick which was always the "pre-boss jump" move.
2) Tornado Kick (currently useless) becomes useful again!
3) Grants Monks an actual new weaponskill -weren't we the only class that didn't get an actual new attack this expansion? We just got buffs and traits, right? /bullshit.

[Fjola]

Tornado Kick - Removes all 3 GL stacks as per usual and grants the Monk the ROLLING THUNDER buff (duration 30 seconds).

NEW ABILITY:
Hurricane Kick (lv 64)
XYZ potency. 60 second CD.
Additional Effect.
Consumes ROLLING THUNDER. Grants the Monk 3 stacks of GL.

Remove Riddle of Earth. This can replace it as our level 64 skill.

The benefits of something like this is are:

1) Far more reliable at keeping GL than RoE because this does not take into consideration our current GL timer. It's a flat 30 seconds to use Hurricane Fist, covering most boss jumps. And even if we don't get to attack in time, we've still used Tornado Kick which was always the "pre-boss jump" move.
2) Tornado Kick (currently useless) becomes useful again!
3) Grants Monks an actual new weaponskill -weren't we the only class that didn't get an actual new attack this expansion? We just got buffs and traits, right? /bullshit.

Add that it will use the haymaker animation and yes.

[BucklesTrespen]

Add that it will use the haymaker animation and yes.

That weird punch-kick thing? I was hoping for an new animation to go with a new weaponskill. You know, like every other job got this expansion lol

[Fjola]

That weird punch-kick thing? I was hoping for an new animation to go with a new weaponskill. You know, like every other job got this expansion lol

Ofcourse, it was a little wierd sure but i feel we MNKs need a few more kicks in our repertoire since we're quite punch heavy at the moment