Rival wings consolidated feedback

[kuma_aus]

I think matches need to pick up the pace towards the end of the match. Since mammet self destruct is kind of strong on towers and enemy base, I think if the amount of mammets spawned should increase as time goes on like in other MOBAs. But since players don't get stronger as time goes on like in other mobas, their HP should be reduced to stop there being so much time spent on mammets.

So say after 10 minutes, 2 mammets of each spawn each time with half health. After 15 minutes, 3 of each mammet spawns with 1/3rd health. But even with lower health, I think their damage to towers should stay the same.

[RiyahArp]

I disagree with the first point slightly. While mid could use a nerf, everyone is also way too hung up on it. I've been on the winning side of multiple games where we've barely touched md. How? Because people actually bothered killing mammets and collecting fuel tanks in the north and south

The mammets aren't killable fast enough to make up for the three or so tanks that spawn under mid, and the 1 tic you get alliance wide. Yeah, you may get 50, but the rest of the alliance is starved for fuel, while they manage to field 6 mechs.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Had a Ceruleum tank spawn on top of a building in south mid. . . Might wanna make sure that can't happen.

[Jxnibbles]

Yes Good Healers are very strong. Sadly as a Healer after I obtain the mount there will be little reason to queue as a Healer. I don't even get to Mech up beecause I have to be healing people on ground which is depressing..

Sure I can kite 4+ players but if they are seriously on me for more then 10 secs then they are just wasting time while my Alliance can push.. Bard and Mchs are also very strong compared to melee Dps so that should also be looked at.. South near the stairs they can free hit from the ledge against melee and Mechs, hug walls against Casters, Binding and knockbacks, and able to kite freely.

Anyway as it stands the mode feels okay with obvious flaws. Healers, Bards and Machinist need to be looked at in this mode.

[nitopome]

How do you guys think of the mammets? are they useful? are they important to win the lane? I think not. but i want some opinion.

[Gospel]

How do you guys think of the mammets? are they useful? are they important to win the lane? I think not. but i want some opinion.

They're important but should be a micro priority one over say CE and Mid. Usually I will fall back on them if one lane is being pushed and/or if there's too much heat at mid. If you have or are a healer then you can take better advantage of the mammet train by healing the vikings so they'll have a steady line of back up to nuke the towers when they eventually get there but again, getting the plan to work out isn't really worth it because it really only takes one skirmish with the enemy to throw it out the window.

Keep an eye on them but I wouldn't prioritize them until the enemies appear to be distracted. If your team is making a hard push with CCs and OPs then that's the perfect time to clear out mammets while the mechs push forward. That way while players focus on killing the OPs you can usually get a few teams of mammets to squeeze by and do their thing while the enemy focuses on the other threat.

[Ekimmak]

Keep an eye on them but I wouldn't prioritize them until the enemies appear to be distracted. If your team is making a hard push with CCs and OPs then that's the perfect time to clear out mammets while the mechs push forward. That way while players focus on killing the OPs you can usually get a few teams of mammets to squeeze by and do their thing while the enemy focuses on the other threat.

Although, it only takes one healer who thinks the same thing to undo all that work by turning the last line of mammets into a brick wall.

[Galaktica]

The mammets aren't killable fast enough to make up for the three or so tanks that spawn under mid, and the 1 tic you get alliance wide. Yeah, you may get 50, but the rest of the alliance is starved for fuel, while they manage to field 6 mechs.

Fair enough, but I still personally stand by my point: mid is not an auto win. Capitalize on the enemies' mistakes, pick up fuel, push lanes, etc. Some people forsake everything else for the sake of mid and I stand by the idea that that's a mistake. That's just my opinion though.

Again, don't get me wrong, I agree with you, mid needs a nerf. Either that or buff the fuel tanks and mammets. I just think it would be very healthy for the current state of the game if more people knew there were other ways to contribute.

[Zeonsilt]

How do you guys think of the mammets? are they useful? are they important to win the lane? I think not. but i want some opinion.

They are useful to push first 2 towers, but entirely useless after that.
They just die too fast.

[Airget]

Mammets are a good disrupter honestly there is a possible strat with Cruisers, since you can only have 2 Opps and 2 Brutes max, in theory you could have cruisers protecting the mammets while the players next to the cruisers kill the enemies mammets. Since the player has to be in a specific location to attack your mammets it would be easy to swipe kill them with Cruisers.

Just a theory though I haven't seen it done.

Also, Mid isn't to OP it's just when you don't get mid you need to adapt your strategy, Tanks give you +10 and killing mammets get you some CE, if players just keep in mind the situation they are in they can adapt to it.