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    Debunking some CNJ Myths!

    So, I know most of us have heard the rumors, that a Wand of Tides helps increase the amount of HP from a cure. We have also heard that 2-Handed weapon cured more then a 1-Handed weapon.

    Decided to do some tests on this. Mind you this was a limited test, run multiple times to verify the numbers. I'm not going to post the spread sheet data, but if enough people are interested I can upload it to google docs for you guys to look for yourselves.

    Here are the results.

    Jade Crook vs Wand of Tides (Single vs Double handed Test)
    Jade Crook: 36 non-crit cures total 18439 HP healed = Average 512.19
    Wand of Tides: 36 non-crit cures total 18682 HP healed = Average 518.94

    Ah but you say 36 is such a small testing number and it does look like wand beats out crook! Next set of data below

    Jade Crook vs Wand of Tides vs Wand of Frosts (Single vs Double & Wand Tides vs Wand Frost test)

    Jade Crook: 99 Cures including crits total 52157 = Average 526.83
    Wand of Tides: 99 Cures including crits total 51831 = Average 523.54
    Wand of Frost: 99 Cures including crits total 52116 = Average of 526.42

    Jade Crook: 92 Cures non-crits total 47316 = Average 514.30
    Wand of Tides: 92 Cures non-crits total 47293 = Average 514.05
    Wand of Frost: 92 Cures non-crits total 47293 = Average of 515.09

    So I think it might be safe to say that Wand of Tides doesn't increase amount cured over other weapons. 2-handed weapons don't heal for more then 1-handed weapons.
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    but the wand of tides has +3 MND!!! =P
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    It's all in your... mind?
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    do you mind if i play mind games when i stack mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by knite23 View Post
    do you mind if i play mind games when i stack mind?
    As long as you don't play tricks with my mind.
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    also.... mind
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    The mind from tides does help, but didn't we all already know that wands were more for healing and crooks were more for damage dealing? That's what I gathered anyway...

    Were you under the influence of party buffs or food btw?

    Edit: Also if you macro'd the gear, did any of your gear change between tests? Even missing a ring could cause a discrepancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    The mind from tides does help, but didn't we all already know that wands were more for healing and crooks were more for damage dealing? That's what I gathered anyway...

    Were you under the influence of party buffs or food btw?

    Edit: Also if you macro'd the gear, did any of your gear change between tests? Even missing a ring could cause a discrepancy.
    I had always heard the rumor that 2 handed cured for more then one handed. I had also heard the rumor that wand of tides heals for more because cure is a 'water' based spell. (Which I never believed)

    Testing was done naked with no equipment on at all. No food, no party, nothing. It wouldn't really be a cure test if I equipped gear/food/party now would it? ;p
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    seriously though they should increase the value in which healing potency materia effects heals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    The mind from tides does help, but didn't we all already know that wands were more for healing and crooks were more for damage dealing? That's what I gathered anyway...

    Were you under the influence of party buffs or food btw?

    Edit: Also if you macro'd the gear, did any of your gear change between tests? Even missing a ring could cause a discrepancy.
    The staff role vs wand role thing is because of what materia they can use. Staff can get Elemental Potencies, Magic Crit and Attack Magic Potency, whereas wand can get Healing Potency and Enmity down. That isn't entirely the case, though. I think more wands come with some magic attack and of course higher tier ones have some nice Elemental potency. A Jade Crook with enough MND would be great for healing with the high crit rate, too.
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