Thread: Question about MCH after 4.06

You're probably losing around 5% of your total dps if you don't oh for wildfire.
But honestly there's really no reason not to oh. You'll always have barrel stabilizer after the penalty ends which reduces to 4 shots and one of those will be a hot shot. But yes, you can achieve decent dps even if you decide not to oh.

Thanks for the responses. In terms of gameplay, I just really like the concept of balancing your heat and keeping it between 50-95 to keep your heated shots going. That's why I was hoping it wouldn't be that much of a loss to do so.

Honestly, my dream setup for MCH would be:
-Put the individual shot heat increase back to 10 per shot
-Make Hot Shot generate 15-25 heat. Put the 8% damage from it just as a 8-10% trait since it's boring to use atm and feels arbitrary.
-Make Heated Shots be the main focus of damage. Make it so the damage increase of Gauss Barrel increases to 15% when between the 50-99 range.
-Make Overheating be either a small penalty, or make it lower your damage until you use Cooldown. Just make it shut down your gauge for 3-5s and it'll return on its own afterwards. Either that, or just make it so we lose the Gauss Barrel damage buff if we reach 100 heat until we use Cooldown to get back below 50.
-Either keep or remove Wildfire. The big numbers are cool but it's still just a semi-fancy version of "Increase your damage by 25% against the target for 10 seconds". It can be cool but I really don't like any class that's "all-in and if you mess up then too bad". I don't see it going anywhere and it's fine as a maybe 80-90 second CD since it's similar to Raging Strikes for Bard, but I really don't like it currently.
-Make Gauss Round either generate 10-15 heat, or make it deal more damage when above 50 heat.
-Make Spread Shot generate 15-20 heat, and possibly make Ricochet have no CD, but it can only be used above 50 heat and reduces your heat by like 35-50. (This is just to make AoE more interesting since it's literally just Spread Shot spam with the occasional FT at the end of Overheating currently).
-Make FT apply a stacking DoT that's strong enough for it to not be a total DPS loss in single-target and to increase it's oomph in AoE. Make it so you can at least turn with it and not have it get cancelled. Also reduce it's heat gen back to 10 per tick and make it so you have to cancel it and not accidentally overheat with it.

These are just some things off the top of my head. I really wish the focus of MCH was on the heat now and not on Wildfire, but with the increase to 20% in Overheat, it's clear SE wants Wildfire and Overheat to be used in conjunction so the whole class is going to be built around that concept and just dumping all-in on one ability and then having nothing for 60 seconds. Unless they decide to go in a different direction in 4.1 in which case I would be very happy.

I'm most likely just going to play without Overheating since that's the most fun thing for me to do and it's not that much of a loss at least.

Not overheating on purpose was way more fun at 4.0 when it was more difficult to not screw up. Now i find that way too easy and a bit boring (they might did that so we can get plenty of time to see what happen around instead of being focused too much on the heat system), so you might want to oh anyway to spice things up.

That being said if you dont go into savage and such, not overheating is not gonna be a problem, you can do a decent dps without that.

Yea, I liked it more when the heat was at 10 per shot instead of 5 so we used Cooldown often and it made it really interesting and intense. But it is a bit too easy now to stay in that range. Either way I still much prefer the idea of balancing heat for consistant damage over all-in burst. I've decided that I will Overheat for Wildfire, but then I'm just going to use Rapid Fire and Ricochet (and most likely Gauss Round since it's CD is so short), and spam Cooldown since it's at 230 potency (same as heated comboed slug, plus ammunition damage is there for it as well).

That way I still have Reassemble, Reload, and QR on-demand outside of Wildfires to help make the main rotation interesting outside of burst. I also just lose out on 80~ potency from not doing the 2 Clean Shots, but it's significantly easier, doesn't require any ammo opener at all, and free's up CD's for the rest of the rotation to make it more interesting. I probably will throw Reassemble in during the Cooldown spam as well since I should fit that guaranteed crit in there for the WF.

And thanks for the confirmation about not Overheating being fine. I've never been one to do "Progression" type raiding so if I even do Savage Deltascape or anything, it'll be way later past progression phase when gear is easier to get and most people overgear the content anyways.

Originally Posted by Noryll

That way I still have Reassemble, Reload, and QR on-demand outside of Wildfires to help make the main rotation interesting outside of burst. I also just lose out on 80~ potency from not doing the 2 Clean Shots, but it's significantly easier, doesn't require any ammo opener at all, and free's up CD's for the rest of the rotation to make it more interesting. I probably will throw Reassemble in during the Cooldown spam as well since I should fit that guaranteed crit in there for the WF.

Actually, many mch don't use reload during wildfire (but do use reassemble).
Check this video, maybe you'll like the first opener and rotation shown here.

Basically there's two rotations, 2 ammo opener that leads to reloading before WF and quick reloads in WF, and 3 ammo that quick reloads before WF and reloads in WF. Both rotations have around the same potency so it doesn't really matter which one you use. Never hold any CDs back though, including reloads, because doing so misaligns them or delays your WF.

The reason why learning an opener is so beneficial for MCH is that all following WFs are basically the same as the opener (slight gcd changes for proc optimization). As long as your opener is on point, you can just hit all CDs as they come up and they'll line up perfectly.