Thread: Dragoons... how do you feel post 4.0?

The Good (Pretty much always useful)
Goad: Must have, especially for Dungeons. If both DPS are physical and take it, they can circle jerk eachother with Goad for more sustained AoE.
Invigorate: Must have, but now only necessary if AoEing, since most WS have their TP lowered, we no longer will ever really run out of TP I think.
True North: Must have for any trial/raid, honestly.
Arms Length: This is a 1 minute recast of PLD's Tempered Will. For fights with mechanics that involve being pushed away to your death this can completely cheese the entire mechanic. Shorter recast than PLD version, too!

The Bad (situationally useful

Second Wind/Blood Bath: Good for heals but once you have competent healers and know mechanics, you can pick something better (in EX trials a nd raids a failed mechanic is usually a 1shot kill for you, so these heals won't save you typically)
Feint: Good on paper, but its an extremely long recast and lowers the target's STR/DEX by10%, which amounts to ~-8% damage from an attack. Decent for tank busters but I doubt that 8% damage will make/break anything, especially the huge recast this has.
Leg Sweep: Not so much of a sweep as it is a push-kick. 40 second recast, 3 sec stun. Remains to be seen if it will be useful on bosses, whom are largely immune to stun. Decent in dungeons against trash, I guess...but we have Spineshatter.

The Ugly (never pick, these are pointless for DRG)
Diversion: Unnecessary, we have Elusive Jump.
Crutch: Removes bind/heavy from someone else, pretty meh.

Originally Posted by LordMaitreya

You got some numbers on paper to back that up or is it just feelings?

Feelings mostly... I don't have actual data, but I have DRG at 70 and I've been practising the rotation for days now, as well as playing dungeons with it. I have a very hard time keeping up with ninjas or blms, and I'm completely trashed by good red mages. Samurais...as ironic as this may sound I haven't come across many, and monks do not seem to exist, so I don't know how DRG compares to those 2.
It might sound like I'm not playing DRG properly, and while I'm sure there are a few things I could do to squeeze in a bit more damage, I've been lots of hours in the dummy and I know my kit pretty well.

Also, dragon sight is very inconvenient. As someone else mentioned, you should be able to just cast it and let it buff the nearest player.

On paper DRG would seem better than NIN, given how the potencies are layed out. I mean Full Thrust is huge, we have Jump (250), SSD(200) DFD(300), Geirskogul (220), Nastrond (330), and Mirage Dive x2 (200) oGCDs. We have so much oGCD damage, not to mention BoTD which buffs Jump damage by 30%. Though maybe NIN comes out ahead from auto-attacks from skillspeed/Huton, and full time +20% damage from Dripping Blades II.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/15417776/ (might show my warrior, sorry)
Seems pretty good to me, actually. (Susano EX dummy)

EDIT : just done a 3min rotation on a standard, indestructible dummy with no chocobo (= no Dragon Sight) and got 3751