Alternative solution to glamour log

[Arutan]

I was just thinking about it but, all the Mako PvP gear, once bought at least once, can be rebought from the Calamity Salvager for a reasonnable amount of gils.
What if every special gear we loot, mostly dungeon, trial and raid ones, could be rebought from that NPC once we obtained them once?
It wouldn't harm the game since all of those gear are untradable. Ok maybe it would make infinite amount of GC seal as long as we got gil. Well then do something so that when we bought the gear from that NPC it isn't exchangeable for GC seals.
This way people would still need to do content to get them by looting or token exchange, but instead of "Damn i have no more place for my glamour!" we would have "Nice, I can get rid of it and buy it later on if I wanna use it as glamour!".
'cause obviously, Yoshida saying "doing a glamour log is like increasing inventory slot", we all know it's false as hell. How 40 more slot would allow us to store the 200+ new gear they will create over StormBlood alongside the thousand of gear already existing? Event if they keep increasing the inventory size, the number of gear keep increasing too, and the number of useless token we have to keep and hundreds of materials too.

For people asking the source it is a Q&A in a french article made during the Press Tour which the embargo ended the may 31th

JOL : Les mirages sont un aspect très populaire de Final Fantasy XIV. Vous avez annonce une augmentation de la taille des inventaires, mais cela pourrait ne pas suffire. Avez-vous envisager un système permettant de conserver les mirages sans devoir garder la pièce d’équipement dans un inventaire ? Comme un catalogue en quelques sortes.

NY : Il y a deux raisons qui nous empêchent de faire cela.

Cote serveur, sauvegarder toutes les données nécessaires reviendrait au même que d'augmenter la taille de l'inventaire. Et si nous implantions ce système cote client, non seulement vous perdriez vos données si vous changiez de plateforme, mais en plus il y aurait un risque de triche car ces données pourraient être modifiées par les joueurs.

De plus, si nous permettions aux joueurs de conserver leur mirages, cela pourrait affecter l’économie du jeu car les pièces perdraient très vite de la valeur s'il suffisait de ne les obtenir qu'une fois.

Nous pourrions peut être envisager d'ajouter un historique des mirages pour aider les joueurs a choisir quelles pièces garder.

Translation (by me)

JOL: Glamours are a famous aspect of FFXIV. You annunced an augmentation of inventory's size, but this could not be enough. Have you considered a system allowing us to conserve the glamours without having to keep the gear in the inventory? Like a log for example.

Yoshida: There's two reasons keeping us from doing it.

Server side, saving all the necessary datas would be the same as increasing inventory size. And if we were setting up this system client side, you would lose all your datas when changing platform and there would be a risk to cheat because some player would edit the datas.

Moreover, if we were enabling players to keep their glamour, this could affect the game's economy because gears would fastly lose their value as you would need to obtain them only once.

We could consider adding a glamour historic to help people choose the gears to keep.

http://www.jeuxonline.info/article/1...-naoki-yoshida

[Nix]

That's actually a really neat idea I wouldn't mind it! I craft a lot so I hurt for inventory space and I haven't sprung for new retainers (because then I'd still end up being starved for space. . . ) This would really help me offload a lot of old gear that I can't store in the armoire

[Kaurie]

I am not sure about everyone, but my biggest issue with the current glamour system is that it is disorganized, and requires an excessive amount of items. This doesn't solve either of those things.

It does, however, solve the issue of inventory space - at least.

Your idea ain't bad, but it's nothing compared an actual glamour log imo.

[Dustytome]

I'm guessing there's a limit to how much they can list per window on that npc, just imagine how many categories they would have to add for that much gear. It's much more practical and user friendly to create a new interface for glamour.

[Arutan]

Your idea ain't bad, but it's nothing compared an actual glamour log imo.

It's much more practical and user friendly to create a new interface for glamour.

Yeah but Yoshida stated during the Media Event that they will definitely not be doing a glamour log, that's why I'm proposing an alternative because this has to be solved a way or another.

[Belhi]

Did he? Yoshida said in an interview at one of the Fanfests that a glamour log was feasible but the UI team didn't currently have time to work on it. I made a thread about it some time ago.

I get the feeling something is lost in translation.

[AlphaFox]

I like the idea but wouldn't that demand more space? I am actually asking, not trying to be rude cus I don't know. I'd assume all the gear that could be bought would need some kind of duplicate ID that the vendor produces that would stop it from being able to be traded for seals, but I do love the idea. I'd gladly spend some gil to re-buy old outfits or pieces, I feel the Level 50 artifact are priced just right.

But thinking on it, the only time you can re-buy the garo gear is if you complete the full set and get the achievement. Something like needing the full ilv245 set, then talk to ___ to get the achievement to allow us to rebuy? Think a few achievements are already like that, needing the full level 15 pirate set then talk to Jonathan?

[Bacent]

I'd rather just have MORE things be able to be put in the armoire instead of some new thing or other. Just add tabs to it that are for tomestone based gear, and dungeon/raid based gear

[Tachyon]

The armoire is pretty underutilized too though, so either that or calamity scavenger actually wouldn't be a terrible idea

[Kaurie]

Yeah but Yoshida stated during the Media Event that they will definitely not be doing a glamour log, that's why I'm proposing an alternative because this has to be solved a way or another.

For sure, my only issue is that I'd rather this be a bigger problem, so that the devs eventually put effort into fixing it properly. Band-aid solutions will result in apathy from the devs on the subject, and the issue prolonged.