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  1. 12-13-2011 09:20 AM #1
    Deli
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    [Dev 1220] Why my Grand Company Item sux.. Rabble rabble rabble!

    I thought they said it doesn't matter which one you join. So, maybe they will make the reward similar. But now For example:
    Lominsan Lance Unique Untradable Lancer's Arm
    Damage: 143 Delay: 3.7
    Attack Power: +25
    Crit Rate: +15

    Gridanian Harpoon Unique Untradable Lancer's Armr
    Damage: 125 Delay: 3.3
    Accuracy: +25
    Parry: +15

    Ul'dahn Guisarme Unique Untradable Lancer's Arm
    Damage: 140 Delay: 3.7
    Accuracy: +15 Attack Power: +25

    well if you look at the LL's stat it's not bad compare to ifrit. but what's that Grid one DMG 125? Even Hart Guisarme is better than that. And Parry +15!? /passout

    Lancer guild at Grid too.
    Rabble rabble rabble!
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  2. 12-13-2011 09:21 AM #2
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    I think they were like "eff you if you're a lnc you chose Gridania LULZ" really can't be any other explanation, and it doesn't make sense since lnc is a gridanian guild. seriously the LL and uldah one are so similar no excuse for Grid to be so diff.
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  3. 12-13-2011 09:28 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaviermhigo View Post
    I think they were like "eff you if you're a lnc you chose Gridania LULZ" really can't be any other explanation, and it doesn't make sense since lnc is a gridanian guild. seriously the LL and uldah one are so similar no excuse for Grid to be so diff.
    I hope it is just a typo... 145 is reasonable
    No other gears has such difference than the lance.

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  4. 12-13-2011 09:28 AM #4
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    From what i've seen same goes for shield, which is quite annoying since there's already not much choice for those.

    Lominsan Lantern
    Block Rate: 126
    Block: 86 Attack Power: +15

    Gridanian Buckler
    Block Rate: 168
    Block: 71 Evasion: +15

    Ul'dahn Hoplon
    Block Rate: 131
    Block: 107 Dexterity: +2

    Of course I joined the Maelstrom. Hellooo crappy shield !
    Too bad, the updates on GC were pretty cool besides that.
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  5. 12-13-2011 09:43 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deli View Post
    Lominsan Lance Unique Untradable Lancer's Arm
    Damage: 143 Delay: 3.7 -- Damage/Delay = 38.65
    Attack Power: +25
    Crit Rate: +15

    Gridanian Harpoon Unique Untradable Lancer's Armr
    Damage: 125 Delay: 3.3 -- Damage/Delay = 37.87
    Accuracy: +25
    Parry: +15

    Ul'dahn Guisarme Unique Untradable Lancer's Arm
    Damage: 140 Delay: 3.7 -- Damage/Delay = 37.83
    Accuracy: +15 Attack Power: +25
    When you look at it that way, not only are they all very close but the Gridanian Harpoon is actually the second best. And honestly, since I don't think there is a DPS/TP rule in XIV like XI had, you will outparse the other two lances with the gridanian one because of faster TP gain. This the same reasoning back in 1.18 why Peiste Cesti were #1. Its not always about hardest hitting weapon, there are a lot of other factors to consider.

    I could do the same breakdown with the shields someone else posted but it would be redundant. Uldah's shield has a lower block rate but a drastically higher block. This also makes sense, hoplons are bigger shields than bucklers, won't block as often but will block a lot better. Factor in GLA's block%+ traits/abilities and the hoplon will most likely do much better in the field.
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    Last edited by Razor; 12-13-2011 at 09:57 AM. Reason: I like to make my posts look good, don't judge me D:<
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  6. 12-13-2011 09:50 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor View Post
    I could do the same breakdown with the shields someone else posted but it would be redundant. Uldah's shield has a lower block rate but a drastically higher block. This also makes sense, hoplons are bigger shields than bucklers, won't block as often but will block a lot better. Factor in GLA's block%+ traits/abilities and the hoplon will most likely do much better in the field.
    Yes of course, but I was talking about the LL shield versus the other two.
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  7. 12-13-2011 09:56 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaedhen View Post
    Yes of course, but I was talking about the LL shield versus the other two.
    Oh wow, I retract my statement about the shields (LL's at least). I just assumed they did the same thing with shields that they did with the lances (I couldn't see your actual post when I was making mine) but that isn't the case at all. The LL shield has worse stats in both categories... Maybe it'll have cooler art...? Since they always have the best looking attire. Iunno, that does look unfair though.
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    Last edited by Razor; 12-13-2011 at 09:59 AM.
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  8. 12-13-2011 10:29 AM #8
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    As pointed out above the DPS is roughly the same and the TP gain is higher on th faster weapon.
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  9. 12-13-2011 10:35 AM #9
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    it's for different situation, like when Lancer had to tank. I'd welcome parry weapon when i am doing something like this.

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  10. 12-13-2011 10:40 AM #10
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    I really like your UI set up o.o
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