Why people hate bard using songs?

[AuroA]

As a smn main for a long time, why the heck are u resing ppl in the first place, healer usually have swift cast up. Unless ur ask to resz or the other healer die and swift cast is down keep on dpsin.

This is quite common as a relief on healer mp when many rezzes are occuring, and singular raise will not punish your dps enough to leave the entire burden on healers, especially when shit is blowing up ( like the chaos that can spawn during diabolos because everyone forgets what dodging is). Your dps doesnt mean anything if your healers run out of mp and you wipe. Summoners also uses eye for eye on tanks too. I know shocking. Using your utility, blasphemy.

[AuroA]

Because bard is just plain weak and giving other party members "support" does cover up these weakness. They hit like wet noodles outside of their openers or when their (long!) cooldowns are available.

um fflogs says otherwise, parsing says otherwise. if hitting like a wet noodle means 5-10.2% less than a "strong" dps class at top tier content ( source: https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/4/#aggregate=amount , https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/4/...nt&dataset=100 , https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/13/#aggregate=amount , https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/13...nt&dataset=100 ) then wet noodles got a major upgrade since I last checked. Also in some of those, "strong" dps classes pulled weaker than the wet noddle =3

if what you mean to say is they lack burst outside of their openers, that is completely different.

[Maero]

Bard is not weak, only the player behind it

[HyoMinPark]

Bard is not weak, only the player behind it

^ This.

Bards have some of the highest potential when it comes to DPS numbers. However, they have a very low skill floor and a very high skill ceiling. It's easier to play a bard and be terrible/mediocre than it is to be a bard and play it well.

[seekified]

I sure don't - as someone who mains WAR and frequently plays with BLMs and SMNs, I love having BRDs in my parties for Foe's and Warden's Paean. Naturally, using the songs and the rest of the job correctly is what matters - BRDs, like all jobs, are perfectly capable of being very valuable when played right.

[Mimilu]

...Did we really have to necrothread this thread? >w>

[Neela]

As a smn main for a long time, why the heck are u resing ppl in the first place, healer usually have swift cast up. Unless ur ask to resz or the other healer die and swift cast is down keep on dpsin.

after maining whm for more than a year I might get the situations right when a smn res could be helpful and when not - that being said AuroA covered it very well.

This is quite common as a relief on healer mp when many rezzes are occuring, and singular raise will not punish your dps enough to leave the entire burden on healers, especially when shit is blowing up ( like the chaos that can spawn during diabolos because everyone forgets what dodging is). Your dps doesnt mean anything if your healers run out of mp and you wipe. Summoners also uses eye for eye on tanks too. I know shocking. Using your utility, blasphemy.

thx at least some people got it right :3