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    Request: Ability to re-assign class levels after 1.20

    For the ten months prior to 1.18, THM was arguably the best healer in the game. Their role as a healer was diminished in 1.18, but THM is still a capable healer today. However, in 1.20, it has been revealed that THM will no longer have a native healing spell. Given that THM is also losing Siphon MP (while CNJ receives new MP regeneration abilities), it seems that THM will effectively be transformed into a nuke-only job.

    Speaking for myself, I ranked up THM under the old mages-are-good-at-both-roles paradigm, with the intent of using THM as a healer. Now that THM is being transformed into a straight nuking job, I am disappointed to learn my healing class will not be able to heal any more.

    I understand that the players voted for drastic changes in the survey. However, if such changes are going to be implemented, is it possible for the players to be able to reassign class levels to match up to the new vision of the game?

    This isn't a simple issue of "ARC isn't good any more so I want to be MRD now"; there are always going to be shifts in the pecking order of DDs. This is more like removing ARC's DD abilities and replacing them with BRD songs (which is, notably, not what is planned for ARC/BRD). There's a huge difference between shifts in the effectiveness of a role and removing that role altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    I understand that the players voted for drastic changes in the survey. However, if such changes are going to be implemented, is it possible for the players to be able to reassign class levels to match up to the new vision of the game?

    This isn't a simple issue of "ARC isn't good any more so I want to be MRD now"; there are always going to be shifts in the pecking order of DDs. This is more like removing ARC's DD abilities and replacing them with BRD songs (which is, notably, not what is planned for ARC/BRD). There's a huge difference between shifts in the effectiveness of a role and removing that role altogether.
    what do you mean by re assign class levels???

    and archer DD ability,s will not be removed. simply said Archer will receive new ability,s when doing Brd quests.
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    Instant gratification? Expecting reparations for game changes? (No, thanks.)
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 11-21-2011 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearforce View Post
    what do you mean by re assign class levels???
    As in, reassign my 50 levels of THM to CNJ. And it's not like there is no precedent for this; it's effectively the same as a talent-reassignment in WoW (a game where you can't play multiple classes on one character). Based on his interviews, Yoshida doesn't have a problem borrowing ideas from that game.

    and archer DD ability,s will not be removed. simply said Archer will receive new ability,s when doing Brd quests.
    Correct. This is the way it should work.

    However, THM's healing ability IS being removed. That was my point: ARC will still be ARC, even though BRD adds support abilities. In contrast, THM's healing is going away to make way for BLM-lite.
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    Last edited by Spider-Dan; 11-21-2011 at 04:49 PM.

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    These things happen when you play a game that is still in development. Just try to bear it and adapt to the new reality. It's not that hard to rank up your CON now (and it should already be ranked up anyway if you wanted to be a good mage worth his salt)
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    Apparently I leveled THM for the same reason you did. I'm a little disappointed I can't adapt to various situations now and that it's being more of a nuke class. At the same time, I don't think it's right to reassign class levels just because of the way they did things. And I'm not just saying that because I already have CNJ at 50 lol...

    This is the new vision for THM apparently. The game is in a state where everything is constantly changing.
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    I don't understand how people can be serious when requesting something like this.

    It's a joke, right? For the sake of my sanity, please tell me it's a joke.

    (Give them an inch, they take a mile...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    These things happen when you play a game that is still in development.
    Every MMO is perpetually "in development."

    Again, it's not like I'm requesting a crazy, unprecedented move; WoW has given out free respecs after major changes.
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    CNJ Mag. 1 Restores a portion of the target's HP.
    CNJ Mag. 2 O Restores a large portion of the target's HP.


    The first is most likely Cure and is a cross class ability. This means you can still put it on your THM and cure.

    The second ability sounds like Cura and is NOT cross class.

    This is a prime example of how the armory system is supposed to work. You find your THM doesn't have healing capability? Take Cure from Conjurer. But just so that we maintain Conjurer's unique roll as THE healer, we'll give them Cura. THM and CNJ now have defined rolls to follow and can still pull from other classes enough to maintain flexibility.

    Not trying to be mean or rude, but I see no good reason you should get to transfer your levels.

    Edit: Also, THM was never "the" healing class. If it was "your" healing class, cool, more power to you. You can still slap a cure on it and heal away.

    But it really sounds like you're asking to have your levels changed over because you feel you level'd the wrong job.
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    Last edited by Alerith; 11-21-2011 at 05:08 PM.

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