ARC should not be a Bard

[Lionheart]

It's simply retard... it is true that bards in other rpg often are bow 'n arrow users... but you can't deny that in ffxiv archer is just an heavy dps, it doesn't suit any other role. Archer is not a tank, not an off tank, not a mage, not a debuffer, not a buffer. So it simply doesn't make any sense to evolve it in a support class. o.O

Ok, I know it's to late to whine about it now and nothing can be done to change things at this point... but seriously if SE is interested in our feedback these are my 2 cents.

P.S.
Fear and Coglin's logic... my daily heroes *facepalm*

[Hachi-Roku]

they gave arc auto attack... wtf

better be an option and not forced on us.

Why is that?

[Imagene]

Love the new stuff. Anything to make archer actually useful in parties. On a more specific note, i like how our combo effects induce enfeebles; and with buffs we get enhancing abilities.

However though, this might have killed people's (and mine) hopes for ranger - and honestly, the bard abilities really seem a little slapped on. Almost as if they could've been a lancer/dragoon or gladiator/paladin skill with just a little thematic adjustment.

But keep it coming Yoshi-P! Ganbatte~! Seems like each class will have a little more character and be fun to play with new variety. Give us our new casters and thf/ninja and we're golden!

[Wevlum]

Yes I can see it and it is glorious. I quit ARC a while back then saw it was gaining BRD as a job and I'm back onboard~ It's going to be interesting.

EDIT; Also auto-attack now on /ra? (that's what I'm getting from the notes) I couldn't be happier...unless they were also giving us crossbows that turn into violins - don't try to imagine how that would work, just let the crossbow-violin symphony caress your ears. D:

[Zenaku]

what a kick in the nutz, can you really see a arc holding a bow with 2 hands, then start playing a harp or flute.... bah,.,,,

it seem the bow become a harp and then back to a bow so i guess it ok.

[MartaDemireux]

It's simply retard... it is true that bards in other rpg often are bow 'n arrow users... but you can't deny that in ffxiv archer is just an heavy dps, it doesn't suit any other role. Archer is not a tank, not an off tank, not a mage, not a debuffer, not a buffer. So it simply doesn't make any sense to evolve it in a support class. o.O

Ok, I know it's to late to whine about it now and nothing can be done to change things at this point... but seriously if SE is interested in our feedback these are my 2 cents.

P.S.
Fear and Coglin's logic... my daily heroes *facepalm*

FFIV Rosa was a white mage that used a bow and arrow. FFII Maria is best suited for a black mage role and starts with a bow. FF Tactics Advance and FFTA2 the archer was an enfeebling job capable of moves such as blinding, charming and immobilizing the target as well as other abilities. Only in some FF games has it been a major DD.

[Lionheart]

FFIV Rosa was a white mage that used a bow and arrow. FFII Maria is best suited for a black mage role and starts with a bow. FF Tactics Advance and FFTA2 the archer was an enfeebling job capable of moves such as blinding, charming and immobilizing the target as well as other abilities. Only in some FF games has it been a major DD.

more random logic otw... u,u
When I list what an Archer is not, I'm talking about FFXIV's Archer...

[Yonnji]

Who cares?

If the jenuine ranged DD job for an archer is not forthcoming, then I'll be playing whatever FOTM job there will be, while waiting for a musketeer/ranger. And if that won't happen, I'll take my wallet and go somewhere else. There is plenty of fish out there.

One thing is for sure. I will not play a freakin' support job just because SE decided to radically change its job description 12 months after I bought their piece of shit game.

[Crevox]

I would rather Bard not be an Archer, but... it's their decision and a bit too late.

[MartaDemireux]

more random logic otw... u,u
When I list what an Archer is not, I'm talking about FFXIV's Archer...

New team, new game. At launch THM was the best healer, now it's CNJ. Don't think just because something is the way it is during an incomplete free period that it won't change drastically by the time the game is pay to play and more complete. They even did a poll when the teams changed asking how players would feel if they drastically changed the gameplay and other elements and most voters (I think I remember reading 89% but I could be wrong it was back in the spring) said that they would approve such a decision. If anyone was of the majority in that poll they shouldn't be complaining about any major gameplay changes being introduced now and in the future but rather embracing them as a new mechanic to try out.

And for the record, ARC wasn't even a strong DD at the beginning of the game. It was only strong just before Darkhold was released until about 1.18. That was a balancing issue from the start. ARC/BRD is still going to be a spike damage job if you take the time to read the new class and job descriptions:

They are capable of generating large amounts of damage in brief spans of time, but are less effective the longer a battle drags on.

That says to me that they can primarily be a DD, switching to BRD only when MP/HP is running low for fodder mobs. At a boss they can toss on the buffs at start while tank gets hate, do their large amount of spike damage and then reapply buffs while waiting for spike damage ability recast timers. Seems pretty solid to me.