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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    You are wrong. That refers to certain multi-player games where framerate affects player competition, nothing else.
    I have heard that "better framerate is unfair" argument Sony made. And on the other side, they argue HDR and 4k will both improve players' experience, making their gameplay more competitive. They even sell specific controllers to improve gameplay. They can't improve framerate significantly and just try to cover it. Still, the logo refers to all game. They have/have not it = they benefit/do not benefit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    This right here is extremely wrong. PS4Pro does not have two GPUs, it's a single APU system.
    The article says so. The 800MHz standard PS4 one and a second CrossFire 911MHz that can be shut down if not required.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Unlocked games will gain a benefit, locked games will need a patch. FFXIV doesn't use a locked framerate.
    you didn't read me. -> logo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Nope, they will do nothing to the code in the PS3 client, there is no reason to, other than assets for content.
    you didn't read me. "nothing (...) except" is what i said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I actually cover tech and PlayPtation in particular, I've written for several news sites, and you are wrong about PS4Pro.
    I won't argue about the PS4 Pro. Because Sony says nothing about it, except: "enjoy 4k/HDR". We can only speculate about untold features.
    If you have written for several news sites, maybe you know people who could answer those questions:
    - If a PS4 game doesn't have a PS4 Pro Enhanced logo, how will the PS4 Pro run it? With its own full power or will it lock itself to being a standard PS4?
    - Does the PS4 Pro have enough extra power to run a 1080p PS4 game at a significantly better framerate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    You realize if you're going to complain here about the PS4 you may as well also complain to Sony, right?
    It is true that what Sony did with the PS4 Pro is a nonsense to me. While they officially stated that the PS4 Pro is meant to keep players from moving to PC, they're indeed speeding up the process. Unless developers manage to use the significantly better GPU for significantly better framerate, the PS4 Pro will be useful to a really limited number of people.

    Or developers manage to reduce the CPU's charge. PS4 and PS4 Pro using the same code, it would benefit both. Which is the purpose of this topic
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    a few official fedback about the PS4 Pro

    edit:
    And this one about the minimum latency the new Dualshock can offer (vs previous one)... Won't affect player competition, of course.
    (this comment directs to no one specifically, it's just me being mean about the crap marketing tells us.)

    Please! Look at those topics!
    [petition] PS4 framerate
    1080p60 cheap pc build
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    Bumping the topic!

    Also, I understand that FFXIV can't got to PlayStation VR as long as it gets below 60fps. A solution from the devs to optionally get a constant 1080p60 would benefit in another good way!
    And if that solution would be possible on PC too, Everyone could enjoy it!

    Please! Look at those topics!
    [petition] PS4 framerate
    1080p60 cheap pc build
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    Last edited by yotsuffy; 10-29-2016 at 03:12 AM.
    Steady 60fps everywhere? Post your CPU/GPU/Limit!
    1080p60 cheap pc build
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/308449-1080p60-cheap-pc-build?p=5146847&viewfull=1#post5146847


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Unlocked games will gain a benefit, locked games will need a patch. FFXIV doesn't use a locked framerate.
    I have heard it is locked at 60 because of the PS4 cooling system.
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    While i will not argue as you have really good intentions, Sony themselves have stated players should see benefits (framerates, better image quality, etc..) even without the "enhanced" version.
    With more Power, the Pro should process stuff with greater ease.
    The point being some people seem to think upgrading to a Pro is only worthwhile if you have a very expensive 4K UHD TV, this is not at all the case. Obviously those with 4K will benefit over those like myself with just 1080p tvs

    As for VR Yot Suffy, do you recall years ago there was actually a video of Yoshi doing Titan in VR, personally i would get motion sickness but increasing the framerate for consoles would be great especially since the no more PS3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    increasing the framerate for consoles would be great especially since the no more PS3
    I think the client of the PS3 and the PS4 are not the same, if the PS4 was capable of 60FPS it would have been so when they did the client, the PS4 isn't a powerful console, never has been.

    I mean, "next gen consoles" pushing only 30FPS and barely hitting 1080p in some games.

    Even the Standard PS4 is a limitation for this game, if the Pro was the Standard release then it would be another story.

    But even the Pro can't hit 60FPS in this game, unless there was a setting to hide a lot of Player Characters in towns.

    I have a GTX1080 and it goes to 40s in towns, so yeah no way a Pro can run this game at 60FPS, let alone the Standard PS4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Is there a way to play at 60fps on ps4?
    Don't go to crowded areas.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieH View Post
    I think the client of the PS3 and the PS4 are not the same, if the PS4 was capable of 60FPS it would have been so when they did the client, the PS4 isn't a powerful console, never has been.
    PS4 use the PC client.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    PS4 use the PC client.
    Thanks, that's explains that the PS4 is also limiting the game.
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    To be honest im a ps4 player and I see little to no frame rate drops when I play in idylshire or other areas of the game however s ranks back when hevansward was fresh was kinda bad but that was mostly server lag having most of the server in one zone
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    Well the human eye can only track up to 60 fps. Any higher framerate and you won't notice the difference unless you have better than 20/20 vision.
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