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  1. #31
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    I always put chairs behind my house stewards and servants, so they can have a seat when they're tired of standing, because "reasons of immersion". And I do know about air-snapping. I try not to use it.

    Lalafells on step stools are immersive. But a step stool on a box on a chair on a bed on a table with a lalafell on top of all that, just because you wanted to build a tower to reach second floor from the first, is less so. My long string of text was to express that what I think, is the official stance which is "they do not approve of furniture-towers either". Not to mention a stacking feature may introduce coding difficulties and stability checks, to record positioning of furnitures upon furnitures.
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    I don't think furniture stacking may remove immersion (as long as it doesn't mess up their barriers in housing...ie coming through to the other floor. Reason being is we're in a fantasy world where people can throw spells around, have people come back from the dead. A furniture stacked house could be presented as a haunted one. There are people currently building rooms that trap players and you have to clip through the items to get back out. Clipping through furniture happens in the game way too often. I guess it should be prevented because it "Breaks Immersion".

    All this belief about Japanese housing goes out the window when you see posts like

    https://housingsnap.com/1413

    https://housingsnap.com/1386

    https://housingsnap.com/1329 -- lots of Eorzean maps backwards...
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    You can make the illusion of placing objects on non placeable items if you look it up on youtube. There's a Japanese site called Housing Snap where you can see how people have gotten creative by doing so. However, not all items are table top so it is hard to create this on items that aren't. Which is one of the major reasons why I support the OP for this. The troupe stage should act like an actual table. NPCs should be a tabletop item (as silly as that sounds it's needed for things like having a Lalafell be able to sit on top of items that give them elevation and more visibility).
    Thanks for the information about Housing Snap. It looks like a cool site.

    I don't understand why any piece of furniture that has a surface that can hold items doesn't have the table top attribute (I also don't understand why I can fly over mountains but not land on them but that is for a different thread). While there are ways to make the illusion of a table top it won't work for many pieces of furniture. The harpsichord for example needs to have an open area underneath to look right so adding a table/chest underneath to allow me to place a candelabra ruins the look. I never thought of your Lalafell problem but it too makes sense that NPCs should also be able to be a tabletop item.
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  4. #34
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    QT_Melon, that site is amazing. I think I might have to play around in my house once I'm home from work...

    For that third picture you linked, would you happen to know what furniture they used to create that pillar with the cutout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    Thanks for the information about Housing Snap. It looks like a cool site.

    I don't understand why any piece of furniture that has a surface that can hold items doesn't have the table top attribute (I also don't understand why I can fly over mountains but not land on them but that is for a different thread). While there are ways to make the illusion of a table top it won't work for many pieces of furniture. The harpsichord for example needs to have an open area underneath to look right so adding a table/chest underneath to allow me to place a candelabra ruins the look. I never thought of your Lalafell problem but it too makes sense that NPCs should also be able to be a tabletop item.
    You don't need to add a table. You need a full wall partition and a shelf.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrHg-tJVHDM

    I created a video on how to do the process for PS4/controller users since a lot of videos explain it for keyboard.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    You don't need to add a table. You need a full wall partition and a shelf.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrHg-tJVHDM

    I created a video on how to do the process for PS4/controller users since a lot of videos explain it for keyboard.
    Now I understand what you were talking about. It's different than some of the compound constructions I've seen. I'll have to give that a try but doesn't change my opinion that if it's flat and solid I should just be able place an object on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    QT_Melon, that site is amazing. I think I might have to play around in my house once I'm home from work...

    For that third picture you linked, would you happen to know what furniture they used to create that pillar with the cutout?
    You are welcome.

    For the Wood cutouts on the White Partition (dyed Black) they're clipping the Wax Vegetables.

    http://en.ff14housing.com/itemview.php?id=3825608184c

    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    I'll have to give that a try but doesn't change my opinion that if it's flat and solid I should just be able place an object on it.
    None of my post ever disputed this, I simply gave a way where it was possible? I feel the current way is cumbersome, and support the OP's post. That doesn't mean there isn't a workaround to some of these issues.




    http://qtmelon.tumblr.com/post/16526...-i-was-working

    This is what I was able to work on (though I have more than 40 interactive items...causing my house to be "haunted")

    To create things like Shoji. You will need an Oasis Wardrobe and White Partition http://en.ff14housing.com/itemview.php?id=850ece8e95c

    The back of the Oasis Wardrobe makes a pattern resembling Shoji.
    https://housingsnap.com/1390
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    None of my post ever disputed this, I simply gave a way where it was possible? I feel the current way is cumbersome, and support the OP's post. That doesn't mean there isn't a workaround to some of these issues.
    I wasn't trying to imply you were. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Cumbersome is a good word for the process. Another problem with hacks that rely upon holes in the code is they can always be closed without any notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    For that third picture you linked, would you happen to know what furniture they used to create that pillar with the cutout?
    Came back and realized you may have meant the Wood Corner with the lighting. So making a different post for that particular one

    http://en.ff14housing.com/itemview.php?id=81635bd535e The Flame storage chest, a Mammet Lamp, one of the Flame Strongbox. To cover it up they placed Eorzean Maps around it.

    I find the back of the Eorzean Map and backside of the Mounted Wall Shelf the most useful for creating panels. If you see my own house you'll see I used the maps to create wall planks and placed the wall planters slightly behind it and floated all of them.
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    i'd like to be able to do this...i mean...stages...instruments...would be nice...i mean i can put a top tier massive aquarium on a table...but i can't put a piano on a stage -_-
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