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    Psylisus Foxy
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 60

    Disappointment in the role-playing system

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    I was horrified the behavior of players in the dungeons (I play PLD / DRK
    ).

    Paty — 70% (badly).
    Paty — 30% (good).

    I always play on the classical system:

    1. Tank > Healler (DEF heller).
    2. Healler > Tank.
    3. DPS > Only Support.


    DPS assists attack the tank, the tank healer heals.
    The doctor has less work, helping only tank.

    ***

    This game is not going well.

    - DPS creates aggression boss.
    - DPS does not look stray mobs.
    - DPS presses two buttons and holding tank games exercises (Flash-Flash-MP).
    - Do not respond to a request chatting.

    This is the norm?
    What is the point in this game, the bonus is not a pleasure.

    ***

    I checked out the game for the DPS to 50 lvl, everything is fine.
    It does not create problems of the tank, and always assists, productive process.
    I clean the mobs around the dungeon, written in tears chat, lazy people.
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I am not sure if I get this, off your points you are basically upset about the quality of the players you get and about your problem that the game revolves around DPS doing DPS and generate aggro on tanks, tanks having to aoe aggro frequently and healers healing tank.

    Not going to comment on the quality of players. The game revolves around the trinity system, so by default you get fixed basic responsibilities for each role you do. Nothing wrong about it.
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    I'm sorry, I do not see the Trinity system, only the binary system of the game.

    I am a new player, so the question of quality players.
    I'm trying to figure out whether this is a normal game without bad players deliberations.
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    The system works as intended, like many other MMOs. FFXIV just has different rules of thumbs.

    Bad players always exist in any games whether deliberate or not. They are also in the majority. For quality players depending on how harsh you define it, it can go as low as 0.1% of the players population but for a starter it's definitely less than the bad players around.
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I don't know if it's because I'm tired but I don't understand what you're saying. You're annoyed because DPS attack different targets?
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    No, it does not work...

    Just Black Mage without me quietly killed the boss.
    Healer work is multiplied, to treat all party.

    It turns stupid creation of aggression, the players do what they want.
    I am pleased with the game as a whole. Dungeons interesting roles are not observed in 80%.

    If it is a standard of behavior in the game, you can not discuss the topic further, thank you for your answers.
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    Raven Quinn
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    Paladin Lv 70
    In low level dungeons nobody cares about tanks, because their aggro abilities are weak and synched DPS/healer can tank themselves (sometimes better).
    Most 50+ BLMs who got Sastasha/TTDC/Hala in leveling roulette will rip aggro from a sprout GLD.
    Most of the newbie tanks don't know how to tank. Some just attack one mob at a time and refuse to Flash.

    When you level up, situation will correct itself.
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    Ok.
    Thanks for the info.
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    The trinity system works as intended. As MahoSenshi graciously stated, most 50+ blm will easily rip hate from sprout tanks regardless. Not just 50+ blm but also brds, and mch because the burst from those classes are really high in low-level dungeon. By the time you reach 50+ dungeons it is expected that you know how to tank efficiently and that marking stuff is pointless to some degree. If your losing hate l, then practice your rotation and the problem will correct itself. Also, in low-level dungeons, people who are 50+ in a low dungeon can and will usually kill the enemies quicker than the tank can grab aggro. It is normal, you learn to grow a thick skin and practice.
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    What's your gear like on your paladin? Meaning your ilvl on your Pld that could be an issue too if your gear isn't up to snuff, especially a weapon, you will have threat problems a lot as you lvl. Getting gear that's higher ilvl from dungeons or from the vendors around HW areas help if you're in say ilvl 90-110 gear.
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