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  1. #1
    Player
    Ninster's Avatar
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    Ninster Barlow
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 90

    How does one "waste" a limit break?

    FWIW, I'm incredibly stressed right now, so hopefully I'll take any criticism of my action in here positively later, instead of negatively like I am now.


    Trial Roulette dumps me in Bismarck Hard. Ok, funny after having spammed EX so much for that dumb bird. I'm SMN. Other DPS are MNK, BLM, and NIN.

    The fight's going okay, if a bit slow. The Sanuwa's kind of have me worried about an impending wipe but we down them fast enough. Maybe it's lvl sync. Or people's gear. I don't know.

    After the Vanu adds spawn, we lose the MNK to falling off. Thinking back, maybe he got stunned in that one pushback AoE. So now we're struggling pretty bad. DKs are up before adds are down, and I and someone else fire and a few of us start in on the corona.

    We repeat this twice. After the second time, I noticed limit break is being called out by multiple people. I see we have LB3. So, considering:

    we were a dps down and,
    barely taking care of adds and Bismarck this whole time,
    and the bar can't fill if we're at lb3

    I fire off Teraflare on the next set of adds. Bam, I get railed on. We kill adds, fire off DKs one last time, finish off Bismarck, and two more comments before everyone leaves:

    "for future reference, you're supposed to lb the corona not the adds"
    and
    "don't have downs and waste limit breaks"

    So... what are your thoughts? The "downs" comment got me more than anything, given I do have issues with depression and anxiety that may stem from some sort of deeper mental problem that hasn't been diagnosed yet.
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    Zaene's Avatar
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    Liara Lothaire
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 90
    I think you didn't do anything wrong. You used your judgement and the fight was won.
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Yea back when Bismarck was actually current content then yea the LB3 was for his back and should have been used by one of the melee but since everyone is wayyyy over geared for that easy fight then who cares when you used it I'm sure he still died in under 6mins and if he didn't that means dps was really bad...since Ravana takes about 4mins now lol

    in most cases the boss always gets lb'ed but sometimes it's a specific add or group of mobs that either stress a fight or could cause a wipe
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    Valmar's Avatar
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    Valmar Atheron
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 70
    If you had wiped, sure. but you finished the fight.

    Haters gonna hate.

    A wins a win.

    Ignore the children and move on.
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 76
    Kirito Uchihara just wanted his anime finisher.
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Hyperion
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    I like to interpret the first comment as trying to be helpful. It's true that people (usually) prefer to use the LB on the Corona. That doesn't necessarily matter in hard, but y'know. I guess they might have been trying to be helpful. They might not have known you had so much experience with Extreme mode and so forth.

    The second comment, however, was unnecessary and needless. I wish SE was harsher about punishing people for saying rude things, but the best you'll probably get is being told you should put that person on your blacklist.

    Try not to let the random comments of keyboard warriors get to you. It's easy to be super rude when no one knows who you reaaaaally are. In the world of MMOs, you're going to encounter a lot of people like that.

    If you'd like some friendly affirmation, I think you made a good judgment call with your decision to just use the LB, especially since no one else was doing so. Why let it go to waste?
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    Last edited by Ryuko; 05-01-2016 at 03:41 PM.

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    Ebonwings Drakostorm
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    Paladin Lv 80
    You made the right call so don't worry about it too much. Since mostly LB3 should be use on Bismarck, but since you down a DPS killing those adds sometimes take longer than expected. We need as much DPS as we can so that we don't waste a DK and chance to deal some damage to Bismarck.
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    Sedali's Avatar
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    This is the Internet, where anonymous people easily show their worst side. If you are very sensitive and can't ignore these idiots then don't use the DF and try to play with friends
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Down a DPS and struggling to get through the add phases? Your decision was spot on. The people criticizing it in the moment are idiots. When the ninja didnt use the LB on the 2nd corona phase, your using it to speed up the subsequent add phase was 100% legit. Some people just get SO hung up on only using LB as a finisher that it breaks their tiny brains to see it intelligently used in any other way.

    TL/dr? Dont stress, you did fine.
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  10. #10
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    Sly Hawkeye
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    Famfrit
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sedali View Post
    This is the Internet, where anonymous people easily show their worst side. If you are very sensitive and can't ignore these idiots then don't use the DF and try to play with friends
    Or you can also just take away your chat box in the HUD.
    There's no reason ever to save an LB in non end-game content, there's no enrage and in the end the difference of time for the clear would be seconds, you just ended up playing with a guy who believes he's an elitist or some shit in an easy fight.
    Since it was in roulette I would uess it wasn't Expert Bismark, so your team shouldn't even need an LB, it's really just a matter of saving 15-20 seconds, nothing important or anything. ^^
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