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    Sephirot Theme ( Phase 2 ) sound familiar?

    OK here is the Soundtrack for Phase 2
    https://youtu.be/xdV_bzJgRxE?t=11s

    Now here is Powerman 5000 from Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2.
    https://youtu.be/Zn33LLmwzeY?t=11s
    https://youtu.be/lsV500W4BHU?t=13s(Original)

    I knew it sounded familiar! Someone has been playing some THPS recently. :3

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Apparently, Powerman 5000 thinks so too...
    UPDATE EDIT 2/25/16: Response from Powerman 5000 Facebook:
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...70&__tn__=%2As
    UPDATE on the Final Fantasy music controversy. Fascinated by the level of interest in this. Opinions range from total agreement to extreme hatred towards the subject (and me apparently) So crazy. The original post was a two sentence observation about a piece of music that was way too similar to be coincidence. Since then it has been taken as some sort of declaration of war. Oh, internet... Anyway. There's no lawsuit, there's no cry for attention or publicity. Just an observation. Going back to my normal M.O of not participating in social media. Thanx for the fun!



    There is now a reddit thread and a Kotaku article too. I did not think this would blow up so wildly.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...powerman_5000/

    http://kotaku.com/band-says-new-fina...-ri-1761120297


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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Regarding the Music for the 2nd Phase of Containment Bay S1T7

    I have read through your comments concerning the BGM for the 2nd phase of the Containment Bay S1T7 battle with Sephirot, and I would like to personally explain how the track was conceived.

    As most FINAL FANTASY fans already know, Sephirot (the Fiend) is a legacy boss character who originally appeared in FINAL FANTASY VI. When considering how to portray Sephirot's return in FINAL FANTASY XIV, we decided to pay tribute to FFVI by working VI's "Battle to the Death" track into the Containment Bay S1T7's first phase, while opting to create an FFXIV original for the second.

    Building upon the motif of Sephirot as a representation of the World Tree, to create this FINAL FANTASY XIV original track, we further incorporated story-driven themes of death and a warped obsession with life, all while utilizing a musical genre─industrial rock─which we believed would provide substantial emphasis to the message.

    Industrial rock is a popular genre that can be further divided into numerous sub-genres. Countless songs from these genres have been released worldwide, and I have been made aware of an allegation regarding similarities between an existing track and the track created for the 2nd phase of Containment Bay S1T7. However, track composer Masayoshi Soken, has also stated to me that he was unaware of the track in question while working on this FINAL FANTASY track.

    We hope that you continue to enjoy FINAL FANTASY XIV battle content.


    FINAL FANTASY XIV Producer and Director, Naoki Yoshida


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    ■FFXIVセフィロト討滅戦 バトル後半の楽曲について■

    皆さんこんにちは、FFXIVプロデューサー兼ディレクターの吉田です。

    昨日リリースされたパッチ3.2に実装されている「セフィロト討滅戦」後半のBGMについて、
    皆さんのコメントを拝見しました。

    ここで吉田から、改めてこのBGMの制作意図についてご説明させていただきます。

    魔人セフィロトはFFファンの皆さんは良くご存じの通り、FFVIに登場した強力なボスモンスターです。
    この魔人セフィロトをFFXIVの世界によみがえらせる際に、FFVIオリジナルの曲である”死闘”を
    しっかりと踏襲した上で、魔人セフィロト討滅戦の後半では、FFXIVオリジナル楽曲で盛り上げる、
    という意図の元にコンテンツが実装されています。

    この魔人セフィロト討滅戦後半のBGMでは、”セフィロト”本来の意味である”生命の樹”をモチーフに、
    魔人の力によって、邪な生への執着と死を力強く表現することをテーマに、インダストリアル・ロックという
    楽曲ジャンルを選択し、ファイナルファンタジーXIVオリジナル楽曲として作曲されました。

    インダストリアル・ロックは派生ジャンルも多い人気の楽曲ジャンルです。
    世界中で多数の同一ジャンルの曲が発表されおり、幾つか類似点のご指摘も拝見いたしました。
    しかしながら、魔人セフィロト討滅戦後半BGMの作曲者である祖堅は、
    ご指摘いただいている楽曲の存在を知らず、本BGMを作曲したことを、念のために申し添えておきます。

    引き続き、ファイナルファンタジーXIV最新のバトルコンテンツを心置きなくお楽しみください!
    Thank you for being swift to explain the situation Yoshi-P!
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    We had this thread :<
    It was closed and I don't think it was because people were being mean to each other. Might be the linking of OST (which the original was a straight rip). I am not sure the inclusion of video will prevent this one from being closed since the purpose of said video is to display the theme and not so much the fight.

    Either way though I do enjoy the song and the fight was very fun!
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    Powerman is a popular band and known in much more ways than a tony hawk game. :P

    I heard it was composed by the same guy who does devil may cry music so that's really more of an explanation than anything. Was just a rumor though.
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    It sounded more like a song from Devil May Cry 3/4
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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    It sounded more like a song from Devil May Cry 3/4
    I hear that a lot actually. I just was thinking "wait this seems familiar..." lol DMC 3 was amazing.
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    Someone should have Spider One listen to it and see what he thinks.
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    I completely agree here. I think honestly at this point I'm concerned about Soken as a creative person. I like him I do .. its just.. he borrows a lot.

    And i'm starting to worry that maybe Square is over working him. Maybe Se could bring it some guest composers to break things up a bit. Bring a bit more diversity musically to FFXIV but also give Soken's creative side some time to recharge. I think all artist need that from time to time.
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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiapet View Post
    I completely agree here. I think honestly at this point I'm concerned about Soken as a creative person. I like him I do .. its just.. he borrows a lot.

    And i'm starting to worry that maybe Square is over working him. Maybe Se could bring it some guest composers to break things up a bit. Bring a bit more diversity musically to FFXIV but also give Soken's creative side some time to recharge. I think all artist need that from time to time.
    What you had said was nicely worded without being to harsh. I agree with you on this. I would love to see more composers and even the return of Uematsu included in the universe of FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdKeyOfSun View Post
    We had this thread :<
    It was closed and I don't think it was because people were being mean to each other. Might be the linking of OST (which the original was a straight rip). I am not sure the inclusion of video will prevent this one from being closed since the purpose of said video is to display the theme and not so much the fight.

    Either way though I do enjoy the song and the fight was very fun!
    The version from that thread was obtained through data-mining, which is against the ToS. Hence, that thread was closed. Videos of the fight is fine.
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    Hmmm... Don't think this is a coincidence. They both sound very similar.
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