Thread: Suggestion: Living Dead in 3.2

1)Living Dead: Grants the DRK a shield equal to the maximum HP. If the shield is consumed, the player gains (2)
2)Walking Dead:Cannot go below 1 HP but dies if HP is not topped off.

As it currently is on the live servers, LD is considered punishing when coordination is not fully there even if the problem is somewhat mitigated through the use of STR, which makes the recovery easier.
However, as of 3.2, if LD stays the same,things will just get harder. With the change I proposed, the skill functionality will be split into 2 parts:

A) Immunity
B) Recovery if more than allowed

If the DRK has 21k HP and takes a 22k hit, the player will end up with 20k HP and the Walking Dead buff. So the healer has to heal for 1k to make Walking Dead go off.
If the DRK takes an unmitigated Akh Morn, LD will be a lot like the current LD with fullVIT, whereas the player will have to be topped from 1HP.

What do you think about this? Post any different ideas.

IF... they change LD, I'd rather see it do something totally different.

When 3.0 first dropped I wondered why it didn't grant something similar to the Reverse status from FFXII. Damage heals you, heals damage you.

Originally Posted by Syzygian

IF... they change LD, I'd rather see it do something totally different.

When 3.0 first dropped I wondered why it didn't grant something similar to the Reverse status from FFXII. Damage heals you, heals damage you.

So basically a zombie status? Like FFX? I wouldnt mind that.

Originally Posted by WolfKid

So basically a zombie status? Like FFX? I wouldnt mind that.

Kind of, but iirc the Zombie status never converted damage taken into healing. I think it cut the damage you took though.

So....you're basically asking for a stronger version of Benediction (since it's all shields, no overheal at all) as well as keeping the original Walking Dead component?

As a tank, I'm pretty sure you've been through a couple of situations where both the tank and the healer blew every CD they have to keep the tank alive due to no communication, in this situation, the worst that had happened was wasted CDs, at least the tank's still alive .

If LD works like "Reverse", I'll probably be howling in laughter when the DRK pops LD, Benediction/Lustrates/Synastry/ED used, all CDs popped and a dead tank to show for it.

Originally Posted by Februs

YES!!!
. Both Pld and War ultimate def CD's are used without additional buffs. Drk's almost never have this option, because they have to worry about the healer not paying attention and removing their status (at which time there is a mad scramble to try and put up emergency buffs). Changing it in the way you suggested would be infinitely better. Not only would it allow the Drk's ultimate def CD to be self-reliant, like Pld and War, but it would also actively encourage the healer to attend to their other activities (such as dps or topping off the rest of the party). Further, it wouldn't be too OP, because if the Drk used it at a bad time (such as a low dmg instance) they could potentially walk out of it in worse shape than they went in. If the Dmg is not high enough to heal them, the healer could not help (cuz they'd be killing them faster).

Pretty sure that Holmgang has an explicit "HEAL ME OR I'M DEAD" tag attached to it. And none of the problems of WD debuff.

Reversing the damage for 6 seconds would be pretty cool. So would basically anything that wasn't Holmgang with a little extra.

I do like how it is currently, but what about it converting the damage (that would of killed you) to healing done on you , then the rest of the WD Buff/Debuff?
That would A) Reduce Bene dependence (and healer dependence) B) Give more power to the DRK to control the usage and C) make it better than Holmgang for the cooldown.

@Lucidia: There's a reason I don't use LD unless A) I'm on VOIP with at least 1 healer and B) I know I won't activate it so it's just style points.

Originally Posted by Syzygian

IF... they change LD, I'd rather see it do something totally different.

When 3.0 first dropped I wondered why it didn't grant something similar to the Reverse status from FFXII. Damage heals you, heals damage you.

DO IT. I was thinking just boost my stats or something like Last Resort but your idea is much much more interesting. And ties all into the DRK wanting to take all the damage.

Originally Posted by Februs

The only thing that I wouldn't be sure about is HoT's. It would feel really clunky having to go through your status bar and manually disable every HoT healer's put on you, especially in Trials/Raids that have party wide AoE's. It might be better if the status somehow canceled them, or nullified their healing over time ... Either way, it would be a hell of a lot better than the current version.

I don't think that they would have a problem working around this. For instance, DoTs don't give you Blood Price returns, only direct damage. So they could probably easily use some of the same programming to make only direct heals harm you.

Eos/Selene might be a nuisance, but there'd be no way they'd be able to out-damage the incoming healing from any remotely powerful boss.