Job Quests...please make them mandatory

[Kalinas]

I just did a Praetorium run with a level 50 Pugilist...not Monk...Pugilist. They had nothing else leveled. I don't understand why aren't job quests mandatory at some point near 30-35...

[Ageofwar]

They kind of are mandatory since some of the skills are job quest rewards not to mention there is gear and weapons that are job only

mind you does seem kind of odd they didn't go to the effort of getting there Job Crystal

[MistakeNot]

They kind of are mandatory since some of the skills are job quest rewards not to mention there is gear and weapons that are job only

mind you does seem kind of odd they didn't go to the effort of getting there Job Crystal

That person might not even have known that jobs exist. In-game there is very little information about jobs, and nothing at all to indicate how important they are.
The quest that points you to your job-trainer is easy to miss or ignore, and then you never find out about jobs.

[Ageofwar]

That person might not even have known that jobs exist. In-game there is very little information about jobs, and nothing at all to indicate how important they are.
The quest that points you to your job-trainer is easy to miss or ignore, and then you never find out about jobs.

Well they going to piss off alot of people between levels 50 to 60 since all the skill are linked to Job Crystal. I would think think they will cotton on that there is an issue when they get no new skills by level 55

[Morbid]

Likely someone who doesn't do much questing to progress; maybe they do primarily through roulette. Already been stated but some abilities do require you to complete job quest to obtain.

I can't say those quest actually highlight you using the new skill. I know NIN has one or two that do.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

That person might not even have known that jobs exist. In-game there is very little information about jobs, and nothing at all to indicate how important they are.
The quest that points you to your job-trainer is easy to miss or ignore, and then you never find out about jobs.

Did they seriously not ask any questions? I mean, they couldn't be THAT bad of a player to not notice that other people using the same weapons as them are called "Monks" instead of pugilist? Different icons in the party list? They had to have noticed at some point, and questioned why they were a pugilist instead of a monk, or just didn't care.

[Zojha]

So...I'm sure you have nicely and politely told him that future groups would greatly appreciate if he could do his advancement to Monk by leveling a lancer to 15 and accepting the quest "Brother from another mother" in the pugilist guild of Ul'dah, right?

[Ageofwar]

Well after some time thinking I just remembered one thing.

Quest 2 (2.0) in the MSQ forces you to visit class trainer. At level 30 that same trainer points you in the direction of Job trainer so they are quite hard to miss unless you are deliberately ignoring them (maybe doesn't want to level LNC?)

[Zojha]

At level 30 that same trainer points you in the direction of Job trainer so they are quite hard to miss unless you are deliberately ignoring them (maybe doesn't want to level LNC?)

That's not quite correct.

Sometimes, the NPC that gives you the job quest is not the guild leader, but rather the receptionist. That's the case for monk, paladin, scholar and black mage. The person might simply not have noticed the quest popped up and thought he was done, since the guild leader didn't have anything left for him and that's where he expected further advancement, especially since you usually get the message:"The next Class quest becomes available from NPC at level YY". None such thing happens at 30 if I recall correctly.

Besides, even if he "did" notice the quest, he might be oblivious to the importance of jobs and thought he could just do that whenever. It's not like the game tells you every five levels:"You just missed out on another skill, sucker!"

[Ageofwar]

It's not like the game tells you every five levels:"You just missed out on another skill, sucker!"

I guess it's just me that see them gold ! above people's head and gets the need to inverstigae them.

i could swear that the ACN guild leader gave me the SMN quest which once i was done gave me SCH after i could be wrong.

well after lvl 50 the quests are every 2 levels but i'm just spilting hairs.

SE should really display the skills as blacked out with a tooltip of quest required in the trats and ablities