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Thread: Strength Tanks

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    Strength Tanks

    Please stop, there is no sane reason why a tank should slot points into strength instead of vitality. You having less or the same hp as a dps is not an effective tank build because a dead tank does zero dps.

    If you say that you hold hate better then you must never flash or taunt , seriously if you do your threat generation rotation properly you will hold hate and once again when you die due to your low hp your threat generation goes to zero.

    It is not a healers responsibility to spend an insane amount of time and mana keeping you alive when you choose not to talent properly, it's like healing a dps that thinks he is a tank.

    In conclusion is you want to play a dps class then roll one otherwise learn to play as the role you selected which means you are there to take damage not cause massive damage to mobs and die in the process.
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    Finally! someone had to say this! i have no idea why people think getting two hit by bosses is a good idea.
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    Provoke successful.
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    This is gonna be fun.

    *Grabs popcorn*
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    Inb4learn2tankscrub
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    It is not a healers responsibility to spend an insane amount of time and mana keeping you alive when you choose not to talent properly, it's like healing a dps that thinks he is a tank.
    Dead mobs also do zero DPS, which lowers HPS requirements.

    Also, having more HP doesn't stop you from being mushed by mechanics, it only buys you a tiny bit of buffer in trash pulls--you should be using CDs anyway, or you're going to be in for a Bad Time as a tank.
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    #gitgud

    Ongoing mission: Tank everything on DRG. On purpose.

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    OP must be a VIT tank with 0 knowledge on using tanking cooldowns appropriately.

    If you need all that extra HP because you don't know how to actually use your cooldowns at the right time I suggest learning your job a bit, but if you haven't learnt that by Lvl60? ouch ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by OogaShaka View Post
    If you say that you hold hate better then you must never flash or taunt
    You do know that Flash scales off attack power, right? Also, there is no taunt in this game, only Provoke, which puts you at top aggro + 1, so therefore doesn't do anything at all for helping you KEEP hate. You do know this... right? Otherwise, we're going to have to call into question why you're talking about things you don't understand.
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    But if I don't stack strength as a DRK those healers are gonna have a rough time when I pop Living Dead and need all my HP healed. And more STR means stronger Souleater heals. And less general health means I can heal those sissy attacks and the healer can do other stuffs.

    Stack VIT if you want to die later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silent_night View Post
    Finally! someone had to say this! i have no idea why people think getting two hit by bosses is a good idea.
    Because getting as close to being one-shot, without requiring that healers lose dps or are forced to use CDs where they otherwise would not, is actually a good thing, assuming the enemy dies faster as a result. I don't know why people would think otherwise. Deaths beyond the minimum eHP for a give TB will be because you or the healers screwed up. An extra 4k health isn't typically going to save you from anything but an immediate AA after a TB, which most tanks will have already included in that minimum eHP count (though, as long as they are not truly simultaneous, that eHP can also be dropped).

    Additionally, STR improves every tank function other than eHP, while Vitality does not. Stronger self-heals, more enmity.
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