Best Collectible Rotations

[EvinnaReed]

After scouring the internet and testing rotations I found, so far, these seem to work the best:

My stats are 616 gathering 601 perception. ALL ROTATIONS NEED 600 GP.

FOR RED/BLUE SCRIP TURN INS: (~ 487 collectability 2-4 collect) credit

- Discerning Eye
- Impulsive Appraisal
- If proc, Single Mind, if no proc, Discerning Eye
- Impulsive Appraisal
- If proc, Single Mind, if no proc, Discerning Eye
- Methodical Appraisal

(Below seems to get you 3 collect most likely, unlike the one above where its most likely 2 collect but a chance at 4.)

• Single Mind
• Utmost Caution
• Impulsive Appraisal
• Utmost Caution
• Impulsive Appraisal
• If both Impulsive proc'ed, Methodical Appraisal, otherwise Impulsive Appraisal
• If you got at least 1 Impulsive proc, Single Mind, otherwise Discerning Eye
• Methodical Appraisal

Odds for rotation you listed:

Impulsive procs		0	1	2	
Number of Gathers	2	3	4	Total
Probability		49.0%	42.0%	9.0%	100.0%
Scrip per item		12	12	14	
Gather Rate		0.95	0.95	0.95	
Average Scrips		22.8	34.2	53.2	30.3

Odds for this rotation:

Impulsive procs		0	1	2-3	
Number of Gathers	2	3	3	Total
Probability		34.3%	44.1%	21.6%	100.0%
Scrip per item		12	12	14	
Gather Rate		0.95	0.95	0.95	
Average Scrips		22.8	34.2	39.9	31.5

FOR COUNTERFOILS: (~540 collectability) credit
- Discerning Eye
- Methodical Appraisal
- Discerning Eye
- Methodical Appraisal
- Utmost Caution
- Methodical Appraisal
- Utmost Caution
- Methodical Appraisal

FOR EPHEMERAL NODES: (here I have three rotations depending on circumstances)

8/8 reduction depending on procs credit


7/8 reduction guaranteed credit: me!
- Discerning Eye
- Utmost Caution
- Methodical Appraisal
- Single Mind
- Utmost Caution
- Methodical Appraisal
- Methodical Appraisal
- Methodical Appraisal

5/8 - 8/8 reduction depending on procs credit: me!
- Discerning Eye
- Utmost Caution
- Impulsive Appraisal
- Single Mind
- Utmost Caution
- Impulsive Appraisal
- Methodical Appraisal
- Methodical Appraisal


If you have other rotations that work better, please post them!

[StouterTaru]

FOR RED/BLUE SCRIP TURN INS: (~ 487 collectability 2-4 collect) credit

- Discerning Eye
- Impulsive Appraisal
- If proc, Single Mind, if no proc, Discerning Eye
- Impulsive Appraisal
- If proc, Single Mind, if no proc, Discerning Eye
- Methodical Appraisal

• Single Mind
• Utmost Caution
• Impulsive Appraisal
• Utmost Caution
• Impulsive Appraisal
• If both Impulsive proc'ed, Methodical Appraisal, otherwise Impulsive Appraisal
• If you got at least 1 Impulsive proc, Single Mind, otherwise Discerning Eye
• Methodical Appraisal

Odds for rotation you listed:

Impulsive procs		0	1	2	
Number of Gathers	2	3	4	Total
Probability		49.0%	42.0%	9.0%	100.0%
Scrip per item		12	12	14	
Gather Rate		0.95	0.95	0.95	
Average Scrips		22.8	34.2	53.2	30.3

Odds for this rotation:

Impulsive procs		0	1	2-3	
Number of Gathers	2	3	3	Total
Probability		34.3%	44.1%	21.6%	100.0%
Scrip per item		12	12	14	
Gather Rate		0.95	0.95	0.95	
Average Scrips		22.8	34.2	39.9	31.5

[TeyaRodar]

For Blue Scrips, I tend to just use a 3-collect rotation without RNG. It yields better results overall, rather than relying on the chance of Discerning Eye procs.

So I will use Discerning Eye -> Methodical Appraisal -> Discerning Eye -> Methodical Appraisal -> Single Mind -> Methodical Appraisal.

[Loony_BoB]

http://home.eyesonff.com/showthread....ectables-Guide

This guide details what rotation is best dependant on your perception statistics, as well as letting you know the gathering/GP requirements. Details all kinds of gathered collectables.

[Alisi]

FOR RED/BLUE SCRIP TURN INS: (~ 487 collectability 2-4 collect) credit

- Discerning Eye
- Impulsive Appraisal
- If proc, Single Mind, if no proc, Discerning Eye
- Impulsive Appraisal
- If proc, Single Mind, if no proc, Discerning Eye
- Methodical Appraisal

Okay, please forgive me for asking this really stupid question. I'm just starting with this scrip business and it's confusing the hell outta me. XD What do you mean when you mention proc's? What proc am I supposed to be looking out for? I've tried this method but have found that sometimes discerning eye doesn't go away so that means it didn't proc, right? Should I be recasting discerning eye then? Isn't that a waste of GP?

[Vele]

Okay, please forgive me for asking this really stupid question. I'm just starting with this scrip business and it's confusing the hell outta me. XD What do you mean when you mention proc's? What proc am I supposed to be looking out for? I've tried this method but have found that sometimes discerning eye doesn't go away so that means it didn't proc, right? Should I be recasting discerning eye then? Isn't that a waste of GP?

Impulsive Appraisal has a chance to proc Discerning Eye, so if your DE buff doesn't go away, that means you got a proc. Using DE again would indeed be a waste of GP, it's why you use Single Mind instead to get an extra gather.

[Alisi]

Impulsive Appraisal has a chance to proc Discerning Eye, so if your DE buff doesn't go away, that means you got a proc. Using DE again would indeed be a waste of GP, it's why you use Single Mind instead to get an extra gather.

Oh, I see! Thanks!

[Shadygrove]

Bob, Using the triple impulsive rotation does collectability depend on having DE proc on the impulsive appraisal?

My stats: Gathering 677, Perception 683, 638 GPs without food. No DE proc and got 3 Cyshal Greens @ 424 so kind of a waste.

[Silverbane]

Bob, Using the triple impulsive rotation does collectability depend on having DE proc on the impulsive appraisal?

My stats: Gathering 677, Perception 683, 638 GPs without food. No DE proc and got 3 Cyshal Greens @ 424 so kind of a waste.

I'm not Bob but I use that rotation. Assuming you have enough Perception to "cap" your collectability (and I think you do, even for Legendary nodes, according to this Reddit thread), the Triple Impulsive rotation required one Discerning Eye (DE). The DE can either be from an Impulsive Appraisal (IA) proc or from manually using the 200GP DE action.

Here's how I would describe a simplified form of the Triple-IA rotation:

Start with Utmost Caution - Single Mind
Do up to three IAs. If any of them proc, stop doing IAs and do MAs instead.
If you got an IA proc, finish with Utmost Caution - Single Mind - Methodical Appraisal
If no IA procs, finish with Utmost Caution - Discerning Eye - Methodical Appraisal

So, if M=Methidical Appraisal and I=Impulsive Appraisal, with a I* indicating an IA that proc'd,
and if U = Utmost Caution, D = Discerning Eye, and S=Single Mind, the possible sequences are:

USI* M M USM --collectability=496, collect 3
USI I* M USM --collectability=484, collect 3
USI I I* USM --collectability=472, collect 3
USI I I UDM --collectability=472, collect 2

Note: If your perception is at or above the collectability cap for the node, this same rotation can be modified to collect 1 or 2 counterfoil mats by changing the opening sequence from "USI" to "UDI". Also, if you want to remember a slightly more complex rotation, you can do a second IA if the first IA procs, like this: USI* M I USM --collectability=484 or 540 on 2nd proc, collect 3

A little explanation:

• The rotation does four appraisals, so to keep the wear at 30 there have to be two uses of Utmost Caution, total cost, 200GP
• The rotation requires a Methodical Appraisal that is buffed by DE. If you cannot get that buff from an IA proc, you need to spend 200GP and get it "manually."
• If you need a "manual" DE, and assuming you start with 600GP, you have 200GP "extra" which is used on Single Mind so you get an extra collection attempt
• But if you do not need the manual DE because you got a proc, you have 400GP "extra" which is used to do two Single Minds, to get an two extra collection attempts

Finally, the simple Triple-IA rotation above, in psuedo

UtmostCaution();
SingleMind();
GotProc=FALSE;
FOR I=1 TO 3 LOOP:
    IF (NOT GotProc) THEN GotProc := ImpulsiveAppraisal();
       ELSE MethodicalAppraisal();
    END IF;
END LOOP;
UtmostCaution();
IF (GotProc) THEN  SingleMind();
   ELSE DiscerningEye();
END IF;
MethodicalAppraisal();