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  1. #16741
    Player
    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Yet you're advocating to assume the Tank is sprinting for that reason, and not trolling. What is the more likely situation?
    No, I am advocating that you adjust by using the same tool the tank has, Sprint, and do your job to keep up and heal like a healer is supposed to.

    There is such a thing as being neutral. Don't make any assumptions. Don't assume they are trolling, don't assume they aren't trolling, just do the role you signed up for:

    Healer

    1. Stay with the party (IE: keep up)
    2. Heal the party
    3. Do a bit of damage if you have some downtime/feel comfortable
    4. ??? profit

    None of this list requires assumptions, it is what every healer should be doing when joining a DF run. If you don't like how the party is doing the content then you leave or you speak up and ask for what you want or need from your party members for the run to be smooth and successful for you.

    You said you purposefully don't use Sprint and it is for no legitimate reason except your negative assumption about the tank. It's one button. Just use it if you fall behind or if the tank uses it.

    Likely situation? They are just using a beneficial buff because...it is beneficial. Your assumption that a lot of tanks are trolling just because they utilize sprint is really absurd.
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    Last edited by Miste; 07-13-2018 at 02:08 AM.
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  2. #16742
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    AxHell's Avatar
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    Axhell Pepenori
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    Zodiark
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    Summoner Lv 70
    So something happened in Sigmascape V2...something very rare.

    Queued as DRK and other tank was also a DRK. And at the same, in perfect synchronicity, we activate Grit.

    The edginess was at its fullest it was beautiful.
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  3. #16743
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Mika Fuzzypaws
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Who knew sprint was such a troll skill?

    As a healer main, I have no issue with a tank using it and I'll just pop mine as well if need be (I'm assuming this would be the reaction for most people).
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  4. #16744
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    bustamanteverde's Avatar
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    Nexcoyotl Ixtlilton
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70

    Limit break use

    As a PLD tank I have resorted to using a macro when the final boss of a dungeon is at 30% HP and limit break bars are full. Macro: "It's over 9,000!!! Punch it in the face with limit break!" since I have noticed a trend of DPS not using LB or waiting till 5% to use it.

    Also if it has a full bar and is almost to the 2nd bar but boss will die before the 2nd bar fills up, please use it anyway!

    After my macro though DPS use it immediately which is fantastic
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  5. #16745
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow' Link
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Who knew sprint was such a troll skill?

    As a healer main, I have no issue with a tank using it and I'll just pop mine as well if need be (I'm assuming this would be the reaction for most people).
    It actually baffles me when people don't use it at all. It speeds up things and it's free.
    (3)
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    Shirk is how you high five the other tank for the tag out. They raise their hand up with provoke and you tag it with shirk. Don't leave them hanging.

  6. #16746
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ursa Vonfiebryd
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    No, I am advocating that you adjust by using the same tool the tank has, Sprint, and do your job to keep up and heal like a healer is supposed to.

    There is such a thing as being neutral. Don\\'t make any assumptions. Don\\'t assume they are trolling, don\\'t assume they aren\\'t trolling, just do the role you signed up for:

    Healer

    1. Stay with the party (IE: keep up)
    2. Heal the party
    3. Do a bit of damage if you have some downtime/feel comfortable
    4. ??? profit

    None of this list requires assumptions, it is what every healer should be doing when joining a DF run. If you don\\'t like how the party is doing the content then you leave or you speak up and ask for what you want or need from your party members for the run to be smooth and successful for you.

    You said you purposefully don\\'t use Sprint and it is for no legitimate reason except your negative assumption about the tank. It\\'s one button. Just use it if you fall behind or if the tank uses it.

    Likely situation? They are just using a beneficial buff because...it is beneficial. Your assumption that a lot of tanks are trolling just because they utilize sprint is really absurd.
    If they sprint off before getting protect or just to cover ground with no pull (causing me to waste a sprint to keep up) or sprint on the last half a chain pull when my sprint is still on CD from 'catching up' then they can eat floor. Im at maximum caster range unless its holy spam or miasma 2 ast heal bubble. I know my job. Its not catering to tanks without sense or care for their group.

    On the flipside, I dont have patience for dps or healers who rush a tank who's trying a moderate pace for whatever reason. Whoever gets aggro can keep it but only the tank is getting heals (unless its an accident of course).
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    Last edited by Ursa_Vonfiebryd; 07-13-2018 at 07:19 AM.

  7. #16747
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    Mixt's Avatar
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    Mixt Bell
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Ugh, that was horrible.

    I put up a PF for HOH for going up to floor 50 with the purpose of farming gold sacks.
    Trying it on 51+ is not very efficient.

    The healer it turns out has very, VERY low aetherpool, as in she only has 11k HP and can barely heal 5K with her strongest spell.

    No problem i think, up to 50 is not that bad.

    But when we get to 50 the group does not want to stop, they want to keep going, and they nag me into going along even after i protest that it's not going to work.
    The two DPS had like 40 to 50 Aetherpool each by the way.

    We had so many near wipes, and each set of floors took like 40 minutes each.
    And only got 1 more gold sack out of it, compared to the 5 each for 31-40 and 41-50.

    But by some miracle we made it to floor 70, where we promptly wiped to the mini-cerberus boss, the healer got outright one-shotted by the party-wide AOE and the DPS got eaten by the insta-kill mechanic, while i ran out of MP for clemency and died last.

    They also wanted me to use Pheonix Down to raise them after they got munched on, despite the fact it cannot be used in battle, and i had already used the one i had earlier on floor 63 when all three other party members were down.

    Can you believe they actually thought we could get all the way to 100 like that?

    They were also splitting up a lot and running all over the place.

    I AM NOT HAPPY!

    But hey, it's partially my fault for letting myself get dragged into something i knew for a fact was never going to work.
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    Last edited by Mixt; 07-13-2018 at 08:31 AM.

  8. #16748
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    Doozer's Avatar
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    Dead Pixel
    World
    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Got LotA yesterday for alliance raid roulette and there was a mentor ninja that died to every single meteor during King Behemoth. Not sure how they didn't know what to do there.
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  9. #16749
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Got LotA yesterday for alliance raid roulette and there was a mentor ninja that died to every single meteor during King Behemoth. Not sure how they didn't know what to do there.
    I imagine some people forget that meteors too close to the boss do not protect you from the Meteor. If you can still melee the boss, you are going to die.
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  10. #16750
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    When 4.3 came out, I was in a Hells' Lid party that just depressed me. I was playing as Red Mage, as I usually do. The tank said he had a ton of experience, but he didn't maintain enmity at all and spent the whole time DPSing aside from pausing to use Tank LB once and then doing nothing the rest of the fight.

    The SMN was even worse and must've been a new player or something because she didn't bring out a single egi. She spent the whole fight casting Physick on me, which I guess she figured was supposed to be helpful since I had aggro, but she seemed incapable of avoiding damage herself. I don't even know what our Healer was doing this whole time, because it certainly seemed like they weren't even there.

    Fortunately, things worked out in the end and Soroban is back to normal now.
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