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    Odds of getting G/E Proces in L58 and 2-Star L60 recipes (updated)

    I tracked the occurance of Good/Excellent conditions on a Level 58 35 durability recipe (Adamantite Nugget) and a L60 2-Star 70 durability recipe (Adamantite Ingots).
    I then did an experiment on a 2-Star Level 60 70 durability craft.

    For Adamantite Nuggets, out of 665 applicable steps, I counted 94 Good or Excellent conditions.
    For Adamantite Ingots, out of 336 applicable steps, I counted 29 Good or Excellent conditions. See update below.
    Applicable steps excludes the last step.

    The chance of a Good/EXC during a step of a L58 d35 recipe seems to be about 1 in 7 (14.14%).
    The chance of a Good/EXC during a step of a L60 2-Star d70 recipe seems to be about 1 in 11.5 (8.63%). See update below.

    Based on the sample sizes, the 93% (2 standard deviation) confidence interval is:
    For L58: 14.14% +/- 2.45%
    For L60 2-Star: 8.63% +/- 2.78%
    I will try to get more samples to narrow the confidence interval. Feel free to submit your experiences.

    Update: We did some more L60 2-Star, with 404 opportunities for G/E condition, and had 38 occur.
    The percentage of occurrence in mats was about 9.43%, and the percentage in finished tools was 9.34%

    Adding these samples to the previous once, we get:
    The chance of a Good/EXC during a step of a L60 2-Star d70 recipe seems to be about 1 in 11.0 (9.05%).
    Confidence Interval for L60 2-Star proc odds: 9.05% +/- 2.05%
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    Last edited by Silverbane; 09-28-2015 at 03:02 PM. Reason: Update

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    The chance of a Good/EXC during a step of a L60 2-Star d70 recipe seems to be about 1 in 11.5 (8.63%).
    MMM wow I didn't think it was that much worse for two star. I should count off my goods/excellent's next week for comparison.
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    I'm almost surprised it is upwards of 8.5%. Most of my 2-star synths are between 28-30 steps, and I would have pegged the rate as 1/30 myself. However, I put a lot of stock in someone actually measuring the steps per good over long intervals. Get more samples. Maybe I'll post my own next time I make some 2-star stuff to add to yours.
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    Thank you so much for this data! It's good to have this data, and know what to expect in 2 star crafting!
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    Thumbs up for the initiative. A bigger sample size would be awesome if you have some time to kill but this is good to know.
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    I don't know if it's just me but does anyone else feel like the actual 2 star gear crafts have even less good and excellent procs than the 2 star submats crafts? Any way OP can maybe test those as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennessy View Post
    I don't know if it's just me but does anyone else feel like the actual 2 star gear crafts have even less good and excellent procs than the 2 star submats crafts? Any way OP can maybe test those as well?
    We'll be crafting 2-Stars again this weekend (after the red scrip reset ) so we'll try to remember to do more tracking, and specifically to track G/E occurrences in 2-star gear crafts separately from G/E occurrences in 2-star mat crafts. I'll update the thread accordingly.

    "Science!" -- Thomas Dolby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    We'll be crafting 2-Stars again this weekend (after the red scrip reset ) so we'll try to remember to do more tracking, and specifically to track G/E occurrences in 2-star gear crafts separately from G/E occurrences in 2-star mat crafts. I'll update the thread accordingly.

    "Science!" -- Thomas Dolby
    Haha nice, and thanks! I think what you're doing is great btw =)
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    I've updated the OP with additional data from further 2-star crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I've updated the OP with additional data from further 2-star crafting.
    Ahh okay so they seem to be the same for 2 star mats and finished items. Thanks for your work! =)
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