White Mage burst healing mage. Is it a good niche?

[AlphaSonic]

DISCLAIMER: Even if I mention the worst AST or SCH the main character of this thread is WHM.


Before Heavensward there were only 2 healers, WHM and SCH, and they complimented each other. If someone brought in a party WHM/WHM or SCH/SCH the party would be less efficient compared to WHM/SCH. So there was no conflict between those classes because both of them were required.

Now since Heavensward brought a new healer more combinations appeared and WHM niche becomes problematic.

In the one hand if we make WHM niche too powerful it's going to be mandatory for the parties having at least 1 WHM. On the other hand because that niche is only burst healing if people find the battles not enough healing intensive WHM will be replaced for other Healers that bring more than burst healing.

So right now, why would bring a WHM in Alexander Savage? If Alexander Savage can be cleared with the other 2 healers, which is WHM place? Their burst healing is no longer needed.

What do you think about WHM niche? Is it good for the gameplay or it needs to be changed? In which ways would you change it if you were to change it?

Edit:
It seems nobody understood me and it isn't even answeing the last question so i'll make bigger and clear

Is it a good design that WHM is needed in progression parties because it's niche is big healings?

[Rewind]

WHM is going to bring it what it has always brought to end-game raiding. WHM is the most solid choice you can make for progression - it's healing CDs are the strongest in game and may be the difference between pushing through a mechanic and wiping.

Cards are a distraction. Only very confident and skilled players will use AST efficiently. It would be safer for most players/teams to bring a WHM instead.

[lordparanoia]

I think that the aim of creating a new healer class is to be able to choose between the 3 of them.
White mage is powerful. It will always be the best pure healer. Anyway, I think that the idea SE has in mind is to let you choose who will be your healers.
It's true: white mage is a solid choice for progression. I think that it's up to you.
If you like a job and you are able to use it in a proper way, there are no reasons to be "obligated" to stick necessarily to a job.
You also should consider your co-healer. If your co-healer is not that good, maybe I would consider the good-and-tested couple WHM+SCH. It's safer.

[Rawrz]

I had a super long post but the page refreshed and ate it q.q but it essentially said whm actually has the rawest front loaded damage of the healers. Short periods of time where the bosses are vulnerable= whm heyday. Hello Stone 3 and aero 2/3.
14 Seconds left until boss is invulnerable:
Aero2/3:250
Stone 3:210x3
Assize: 300
Fluid Aura if able:150
Total:1540 (1390 if no Fluid Aura)

Bio:200
Broil:170x4
Energy Drain:150x3
Total:1330

If mana wasn't such a gimp in 3 minutes or 72gcds without speed buffs:
Aero 3: 7x370=2590
Aero 2:15x250=3750
Assize 2x300=600
Fluid Aura if close enough 150x6=900
Stone3= 50x210 10500
17740ish

Energy Drain: 9x150=1350
Bio2: 6x350=2100
Bio: 10x240=2400
Aero: 10x200=2000
Miasma: 7x300=2100
Shadowflare: 6x250=1500
Broil: 24x170=4080
15530ish

Coming from a main SCH, WHM can hit pretty hard when they can find the time. They have that as a backup niche.

[Yumi_umi]

When SE releases the next healer it might actually kill the whm if it get the mind party buff.
Im sure SE isn't derp enough to make 3 healers piety and 1 healer mind.

[Rajeme]

So right now, why would bring a WHM in Alexander Savage? If Alexander Savage can be cleared with the other 2 healers, which is WHM place? Their burst healing is no longer needed.

Resubbed after one month of absence.

Read this sentence...

Thought I installed the wrong game...

[Assirra]

DISCLAIMER:
So right now, why would bring a WHM in Alexander Savage? If Alexander Savage can be cleared with the other 2 healers, which is WHM place? Their burst healing is no longer needed.

When content is on farm that might be right.
However during progress you can be sure that that burst healing comes in very handy.
WHM is the ultimate "shit goes bad time to save everyone" healer.

[AlphaSonic]

When content is on farm that might be right.
However during progress you can be sure that that burst healing comes in very handy.
WHM is the ultimate "shit goes bad time to save everyone" healer.

But is it good that? I mean, WHM being mandatory for clears but, after that, no longer needed and take AST or SCH for farming content?

Is it good having Farming content healers and Clearing content healers?

[Assirra]

But is it good that? I mean, WHM being mandatory for clears but, after that, no longer needed and take AST or SCH for farming content?

Is it good having Farming content healers and Clearing content healers?

Well to be honest, the moment you have more then 1 different job there will always be differences in certain situations. It is not like whm is crap for farm content either. If anything it is actually good since it can do the main healing while the other healer is allowed to dps more.
Personally i rather be good for progress rather then farm content.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

14 Seconds left until boss is invulnerable:
Aero2/3:250
Stone 3:210x3
Assize: 300
Fluid Aura if able:150
Total:1540 (1390 if no Fluid Aura)

Bio:200
Broil:170x4
Energy Drain:150x3
Total:1330

If mana wasn't such a gimp in 3 minutes or 72gcds without speed buffs:
Aero 3: 7x370=2590
Aero 2:15x250=3750
Assize 2x300=600
Fluid Aura if close enough 150x6=900
Stone3= 50x210 10500
17740ish

Energy Drain: 9x150=1350
Bio2: 6x350=2100
Bio: 10x240=2400
Aero: 10x200=2000
Miasma: 7x300=2100
Shadowflare: 6x250=1500
Broil: 24x170=4080
15530ish

Coming from a main SCH, WHM can hit pretty hard when they can find the time. They have that as a backup niche.

So much this.

It is time to stop with the old mantra "SCH is the best at DPSing".
It is no longer the case.