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    Shinonome Sanada
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    You sure about that? I know that Essential Dignity's Potency scales as HP gets lower, but I didn't know about critical strike chance increasing as well. You guys sure that it isn't just confirmation bias colouring your experiences?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    You sure about that? I know that Essential Dignity's Potency scales as HP gets lower, but I didn't know about critical strike chance increasing as well. You guys sure that it isn't just confirmation bias colouring your experiences?
    I'm not very sure about that because there is no confirmed statistics. Just my experiences. But yeah, I don't take crit rate to the equation cause it's pretty vague.
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  3. #13
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    Yeah if u critic u heal about 9k...but u have to critic...

    I use it always when my target hp are around 1 or 2k. I mean tanks of course and it heals about 4k. Now something more or something less doesn't mean anything. It should heal much more for that 40 seconds cooldown. Or they must lower it's cooldown instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraqus View Post
    Yeah if u critic u heal about 9k...but u have to critic...

    I use it always when my target hp are around 1 or 2k. I mean tanks of course and it heals about 4k. Now something more or something less doesn't mean anything. It should heal much more for that 40 seconds cooldown. Or they must lower it's cooldown instead.
    I do crit often as much as the times I don't crit. But won't talk about crit here.

    It's an emergency cooldown, so it's not supposed to be used frequently like your usual heals. No cast time, no mp cost. Potency scales almost 1000.

    I don't play Sch, but here are some comparison:

    Tetragrammation: Potency 700, recast time: 60s.
    Lustrate: Potency 600 but you need aetherflow which is 60s cooldown.

    So, question is, why does cd need to be reduced? It's comparable to other healers' and practically faster cool down.
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  5. #15
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    Aether flow gives u 3 stacks per minute that means that u can use lustrate 3 times in 1 minute. That's math. And because I mailed SCH before AST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajeme View Post
    I do crit often as much as the times I don't crit. But won't talk about crit here.

    It's an emergency cooldown, so it's not supposed to be used frequently like your usual heals. No cast time, no mp cost. Potency scales almost 1000.

    I don't play Sch, but here are some comparison:

    Tetragrammation: Potency 700, recast time: 60s.
    Lustrate: Potency 600 but you need aetherflow which is 60s cooldown.

    So, question is, why does cd need to be reduced? It's comparable to other healers' and practically faster cool down.
    The problem is that White Mage also has Benediction which is a 100% emergency heal, so they have access to two. Scholars get 3 600 potency Lustrates every 60 seconds. Astrologians get one HP scaling 400 base potency emergency heal every 40 seconds. I'm not saying Astrologian is bad, but when it comes to near-death healing, the other two jobs are vastly superior at pulling parties out of it.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurls View Post
    The problem is that White Mage also has Benediction which is a 100% emergency heal, so they have access to two. Scholars get 3 600 potency Lustrates every 60 seconds. Astrologians get one HP scaling 400 base potency emergency heal every 40 seconds. I'm not saying Astrologian is bad, but when it comes to near-death healing, the other two jobs are vastly superior at pulling parties out of it.
    Finally someone who knows what to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraqus View Post
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    I never said ED is superior to either WHM or SCH, but it's comparable. For 1000 potency every 40s, yeah, it's lower than Lustrate 1800 potency every 60s, but it's comparable. It's also comparable with Tetragrammation 700 potency every 60s. Saying anything like the skill is vastly inferior is just not correct. Remember, it's SE's intention to not make AST's basic heals equal or better than other healers.

    Also, it seems my argument from "Essential Dignity doesn't need buff" has been changed to "AST's emergency healing is as good as other healers", which is simply an understatement. In fact, I never said AST doesn't lack emergency heals. If you read my previous posts, I have already pointed out that AST is in need of emergency heals to make it more reliable. Essential dignity, in the end, is still just one skill. Buffing it just for the sake of spamming one single emergency skill is, in my opinion, just unbalance.

    Oh, since we are on topic, AST can also use Synastry+Essential Dignity, which can act as a make-shift dual emergency heal, which means you can instantly heal 2 people at the same time, one for 1000 potency and one for 500, which is not even nearly bad.
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    I didn't even read all of ur comment but u can't say that it's 1800 every 60 seconds because it's 600 each 20 seconds. And that's HUGE!
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    Krixus Rayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraqus View Post
    Theo not thing that I hate about this skill it's the cooldown. 40 seconds it's too much for that -_-
    Lol does everyone have to tell you again this is one of astro's few good skills? Its an awesome ability for such a short CD.
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