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  1. #1
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    Nalyiah's Avatar
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    Nalya Red
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 60

    BLM Quality of life changes

    I love BLM but there is a few annoying things I think should be changed.

    1. Let you finish your cast of Fire4/Blizz4 if you started casting and lost the enochian buff midway.

    2. Let you get the Umbral Ice buff even if the target goes immune to damage.


    I think these 2 changes would make managing weird situations better.
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    Pairo Orunitia
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Yup I agree with you, I made a similiar topic btw, where I proposed a few other QOL changes
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-about-3.0-BLM.
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    James Cairn
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 53
    I'd respond to Pyro's thread but it appears to currently be low enough its no longer on the front page, so I'll put my own additions to QOL changes here in an attempt for more visibility.

    -I think the clunky application time of AF3/UI3 meaning you cannot immediately cast Fire/Blizzard IV is extremely agitating and at times could cause you to lose your enochian or a cast.
    -Reward Thundercloud procs better...Right now with the fact we feel so pressured to get through our rotation fast enough to refresh Enocian, a limit that gets more tight as we progress through it, making thundercloud procs more worth the GCD would assist us. At the very least could a Thundercloud proc perhaps add 1 GCD's worth of time to the enochian timer? That way you at least lose 0 time and can keep your dot up.
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Fire IV being able to proc Firestarter would be nice, in addition to the ideas put forth by Pyro and Nal.

    I think there are ways to make this ridiculous rotation work, as it is it mostly just makes me angry when I lose everything due to .5 seconds of a fight doing something outside my control
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    Quick Ben
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I think a buff to AF/UI duration, akin to what MNK received for GL, is needed.
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    Harold Saxon
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Giving F4 procs would be bad imo. The class should be unique playstyle wise, and the "turret" gameplay does that more than any other class (3 second casts on F4).

    Astral Fire Duration Increase
    Thunder 4 - Thundercloud giving extended Enochian by 5 seconds (so that using Thundercloud doesn't punish you)
    Allow finish of B4/T4/F4 cast if the cast has started even if Enochian drops off
    Fix of the F3-Gap-F4 bug.
    Reduction of the Mana cost of F1 to be the same as F4 (so that using F1 instead of F4 doesn't double punish you)
    Enochian skill always fully refreshes Enochian (so only B4 is a diminishing return)

    Then give one of the SMN skills a small magic vulnerablity debuff so they have more utility.

    What the above will do is bring QoL to BLM, and make casters able to be a viable option in raids where there aren't any "cheese" mechanics that force the use of a caster - and allow caster heavy parties to compete with Melee heavy parties.
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    Dajinn Valheru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Fix of the F3-Gap-F4 bug.
    This isn't really a bug, it's just bad programming. But yes I agree with that and the rest.

    I think all the BLM needs to make it perfect is to:

    make B4 always refresh enochian to 30 seconds
    extend duration of AF/UI to 12-15 seconds
    make Enochian always restart the duration at 30 seconds
    finish the damn cast of F4/B4 even if anything drops off

    And that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dajinn View Post
    This isn't really a bug, it's just bad programming. But yes I agree with that and the rest.

    I think all the BLM needs to make it perfect is to:

    make B4 always refresh enochian to 30 seconds
    extend duration of AF/UI to 12-15 seconds
    make Enochian always restart the duration at 30 seconds
    finish the damn cast of F4/B4 even if anything drops off

    And that's it.
    Its actually a bug from a bug fix. The cause is the bug fix they did in 2.1 - The infinite flare bug. But yes, bad programming I agree, but its still a bug nevertheless.

    Even if you did the above, you would still have Thundercloud being made useless, and be double punished for movement for having to use a Fire 1 - as you lose two fire 4's (one from not casting the F4 in the first place, and second due to Fire 1 costing more mana).
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    Indie Tech
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    Malboro
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zencurse View Post
    I'd respond to Pyro's thread but it appears to currently be low enough its no longer on the front page, so I'll put my own additions to QOL changes here in an attempt for more visibility.

    -I think the clunky application time of AF3/UI3 meaning you cannot immediately cast Fire/Blizzard IV is extremely agitating and at times could cause you to lose your enochian or a cast.
    -Reward Thundercloud procs better...Right now with the fact we feel so pressured to get through our rotation fast enough to refresh Enocian, a limit that gets more tight as we progress through it, making thundercloud procs more worth the GCD would assist us. At the very least could a Thundercloud proc perhaps add 1 GCD's worth of time to the enochian timer? That way you at least lose 0 time and can keep your dot up.

    I would love to see the Thundercloud Procs do AoE damage, and apply a dot to everything it hit. Chain Lightning!! BaaaZzzzaaaaappp!!
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ndTech View Post
    I would love to see the Thundercloud Procs do AoE damage, and apply a dot to everything it hit. Chain Lightning!! BaaaZzzzaaaaappp!!
    It would be nice to change Thunder 2 into something like this, but priority wise that should come after the important class fixes.
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