Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Ryaz]

That actually sounds good... There was no need to put aren't Dismantle and Rend Mind into two separate cooldowns as it is. I could picture have a few different attachments, off global cooldown, that you rotated through/switched between for different effects. It'd be similar to GW2 Engineers, where you switch between different kits for different abilities.

[Aiurily]

MCH seems to sustain and burst a bit higher, just saying~

my experience is different, with bard sustaining more dps in my own baseline parses (gear difference being accounted for) though disembowel is a bigger increase for machinists, since like 25.5% of a bard's damage is dots/flaming arrow lol (vs machinist where leadshot is around 11.5%, then wildfire is around 7.5%; though wildfire can mostly also be buffed by disembowel indirectly, so really, it's only 12% or so of a MCH's damage that isn't affected by disembowel, with the extra 0.5% from leadshot dot damage in wildfire)

their burst is sort of apples and oranges, too. wildfire is a big delayed burst, bard has immediate burst (ie - instant kill the alarums in a1 savage without needing to bait resins lol)

[Lavieh]

my experience is different

I agree with this. I do think that MCH's are better for progression since they can maintain resources better but I'm fairly certain once we start seeing speedclears BRD will be on top.

[Judge_Xero]

It's hard to justify using Lead Shot before you're finished putting up all your buffs (BFB, HE, RS, Potion), it's by far our highest potency per cast time attack and you want it to be as strong as possible.

You are right. When I was initially looking at it, it didn't seem like I was getting the last couple skills under the HE/B4B timers if I popped them first prior to LS, so I was comparing the difference in gained potency from Wildfire if I delayed the cast till after LS.

One of the issues I was running into with excess latency, was not fitting the skills into the Buff timers and, my first Slug Shot not registering under Wildfire. Which I thought to alleviate both with swapping out of Gauss Barrel to have Wildfire Initialize quicker between the GCD and to be able to cast my buffs during the first couple GCD while not under the effect of GB. But, for some reason the AA Damage does not have as big of an impact on Wildfire, although calculated higher potency for AA + Split and AA + Slug. (and it gets very clunky swapping GB mid Burst)

So here's what I ended up doing, which is pretty well the same as the Double GR Opener.

Hypercharge, BFB, HE, RS, Tank pulls the boss, Gauss Round
Hot Shot | Pot
Lead Shot | Reload/Wildfire (this lets me get Wildfire Credit for both the first Split and Slug Shots, where as if I used Wildfire on the next Slug, it wouldn't register before Slug goes off due to it being instant cast)
Split | Quick Reload
Slug | Ricochet
Split | Reassemble/Rapid Fire
Clean | Blank
Slug | Head Graze
Split|
Clean | Gauss Round
Wildfire goes off

[Myon88]

When I was initially looking at it, it didn't seem like I was getting the last couple skills under the HE/B4B timers if I popped them first prior to LS, so I was comparing the difference in gained potency from Wildfire if I delayed the cast till after LS.

That's a fair point, and another good reason to make sure you're activating your buffs from weakest to strongest. Our opener is frontloaded with so many GCDs spent casting buffs, that it's good to think about how the order of activation affects which one falls off first later in the opener.

It's a small difference, but activating BFB before Raging Strikes for example is the difference between Raging Strikes being up just a little bit longer to affect one more shot later in the opener - which is better than the reverse situation where Raging Strikes falls off and you're left with the relatively weaker BFB buff for that last shot.

[Odowla]

Also account for how rediculous BRD is to sustain high - that being said, i can sustain 1.2kish with both but sustaining it with b ard is so insane

Also, lol 12% on leadshot, i always knew it wazs that high but when you think of a single dot being 12% of your damage.. lol, holy shit

[Myon88]

My static is moving into A2S and I'm looking for tips on how to best approach that fight - ideal cooldown usage per wave and things like that. We're still wiping on wave 5/6 so it's still early days for us, but I'd like to be prepared.

I'm pretty much just dotting everything up with Lead Shot at the start of each wave, and then moving into single target/AoE depending on the priority target, am I forgetting anything obvious?

[Ryaz]

Just have to wonder-- does anyone else think our Eso gun looks like a dust buster vacuum?

[zandervont]

My static is moving into A2S and I'm looking for tips on how to best approach that fight - ideal cooldown usage per wave and things like that. We're still wiping on wave 5/6 so it's still early days for us, but I'd like to be prepared.

I'm pretty much just dotting everything up with Lead Shot at the start of each wave, and then moving into single target/AoE depending on the priority target, am I forgetting anything obvious?

with 3 weeks of clear, what i do is:
1st wave just singletarget, they die fast enough.
2nd wave with aoebot, singletarget (using reload, reassemble for funs, singletargeting)
3rd wave aoebot, dotting the biggob that spawns far away, popping all cds except raging+pot, then Grenados once tanks have pulled everything on one stack, invig once sub 540. changing to a quick tp bot when 1-2 gobs left.
4th wave aoebot in the middle, singletarget on the walker. mpbot when next wave spawns for a quick refresh.
5th wave dot widows, once all cds are up, go ham on the first widow. getting some sweet 9-10k WF:s.
6th wave i throw hypermpbot, we focus the biggob, then aoebot and dot all, focus walker -> doll -> widow. I'm savin cds for next wave.
7th wave it'd be optimal to aoebot all 4 but tanks......... I go and cds -> dot all 4 -> focus on clearing one tank.
8th wave aoebot until biggobs are down, mpbot to the end of the wave. aoe if i can
9th wave aoebot until small gobs are down, mpbot if heals low. dot walker, doll and if tp is fine, widows too. using cds on Doll, and then whenever they are up.
I think thats all. I dont really like the fight but whatever.

[Velhart]

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I am going to try this out and see how it works for me. Small adjustments to cater to my group set up, but it all looks legit.