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  1. #61
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    I misread thanks for the answer

    I really like machinist currently 40, looking forward to testing it pvp. Should have some excellent burst combined with between the eyes.
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    Last edited by Stupiduglytaru; 06-22-2015 at 09:50 PM.

  2. #62
    Player IfritReborn's Avatar
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    Kevvy Alexandros
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    That's correct.

    Well, according to the japanese forums (thanks to @kiyamashuuichi), here's a full buff Wild Fire (lvl56 MCH) dmg:

    Gauss Barrel ON = 1900 to about 2000
    Gauss Barrel OFF = about 2100-2200

    Now i'm confused if it's better to do an opening with GB or not :/
    It's starting to become apparent that something is very off, not working as intended with MCH and Gauss Barrel
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  3. #63
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    ChespinXL's Avatar
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    Chespin Xl
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    Gilgamesh
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    Machinist Lv 60
    I am not sure if anyone mentioned this. You can have you Gauss Barrel up without casting when you have Rapid Fire buff. Could this benefit and alter the rotation?
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  4. #64
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    Keylus Laststorm
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Since rapid fire only last 3 weapon skills, would it be better if we cast it before any other buff in the opener? Even if you want it to line up with Wildfire you can delay it later
    And well... I don't think that you will have 50 sec count down in most of the pulls, even if you are in a static, I know that it gives you more damage in teoria but it is not practical
    For gauss, I have a question since I am still not high level, how many cast time does it add?
    For the opener, maybe deactivate it after gauss round and ricochet would be optimal, so maybe would be optimal to use those two ASAP
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  5. #65
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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Keylus View Post
    Since rapid fire only last 3 weapon skills, would it be better if we cast it before any other buff in the opener? Even if you want it to line up with Wildfire you can delay it later
    And well... I don't think that you will have 50 sec count down in most of the pulls, even if you are in a static, I know that it gives you more damage in teoria but it is not practical
    For gauss, I have a question since I am still not high level, how many cast time does it add?
    For the opener, maybe deactivate it after gauss round and ricochet would be optimal, so maybe would be optimal to use those two ASAP
    Attacks in Gauss take 1.5 seconds. You should be able to fit all of your shots in a wild fire with proper use of rapid. Attaching the barrel takes 3 seconds of channeling, and it isn't really feasible unless you're at a complete downtime
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  6. #66
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    Jhayden Cofield
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Thx for the help so far. i am hoping we can figure out the ins and outs of this dps... i do enjoy the class so far, but i am seeing alot of people feeling that teh dps is quite subpar.. im going to use some of this
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  7. #67
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    Elizabeth's Avatar
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    Minerva Cho
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 68
    From @FunkMasterOne on Reddit:

    Just want to clarify a few things. As a level 59 MCN, with a 57 weapon and ilvl 142, I am sustaining 622 dps after 3min. With an intial burst of 1000. HOWEVER, upon testing skills individually, ACT is not picking up on Wildfire . This is a very huge DPS skills for the MCN, and I dare say that the parse would be much higher were it to be read accurately. So now to compare to my DRG friend w/ ilvl57 Wep and ilvl 143: He is bursting for 1200 and sustaining around 750.
    Don't get too panicked about MCN been worthless yet.
    Edit: Just to clarify, I am updated to the latest parsing plugin.
    Edit 2: No pots or food was used.


    Update: ACT developer just confirmed on Reddit. Working on a fix.
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    Last edited by Elizabeth; 06-23-2015 at 01:21 AM.

  8. #68
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    Shhikasan's Avatar
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    Shika Naito
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    so if what im picking up this right Gauss burst turn off wait for rapid fire repeat.
    so we are seeing bunch of Stance dancing stuff with a lot of the classe if this were the case. I mean I feel a lack of dps when everything is off cd and im just waiting for my shots to proc
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  9. #69
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    Drowned Wednesday
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    That's correct.

    Well, according to the japanese forums (thanks to @kiyamashuuichi), here's a full buff Wild Fire (lvl56 MCH) dmg:

    Gauss Barrel ON = 1900 to about 2000
    Gauss Barrel OFF = about 2100-2200

    Now i'm confused if it's better to do an opening with GB or not :/
    So I did some tests in game again as well as creating a rough spreadsheet of the first 20 seconds of an opener, and yeah, Wildfire basically does more damage without Gauss Barrel even if you cancel Gauss Barrel after the first Clean Shot. The discrepancies in the opener starting with Gauss Barrel and without were taken from 20 samples, but I guess RNG acts up. And so, it's not worth hard casting Gauss Barrel either.

    Here's the spreadsheet with the math done: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing



    ): Gauss Barrel is basically useless other than for AoE pulls.

    EDIT: Whoops, forgot to extend the GB openers to 20 seconds, GB is worth using only until Clean Shot after all for higher overall DPS in the first 20 seconds but not higher Wildfire damage.
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    Last edited by Cascadi; 06-23-2015 at 02:49 AM.

  10. #70
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    Cup Bot
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadi View Post

    Here's the spreadsheet with the math done: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing



    ): Gauss Barrel is basically useless other than for AoE pulls.

    EDIT: Whoops, forgot to extend the GB openers to 20 seconds, GB is worth using only until Clean Shot after all for higher overall DPS in the first 20 seconds but not higher Wildfire damage.
    Does the spreadsheet account for rapid fire? Ideally you would open with rapid fire and gauss, then cancel after the first crit clean shot.
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