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    [Dev 1024] Server transfer & or Merging

    I know I mentioned this in the past but it seems the society on most servers are becoming grim. Here's why: Population is big factor in many cases. It affects activity, economy, item availability (retainers for example), communication, activity events, and other personal social gaming that can't be done alone by one person.

    I reside on Wutai server. This server was selected because of the popular name in reference with FF7 title. At one point, it was populated but now it's somewhat quiet than what it was used to when the release became available. I joined an ls that had more than hundred members (Heaven's eye). The ls retired as well of the players due to the game had internal issues and needed constant renovations. They all left to play other MMO's like Rift. I still remain mostly because I still find this game fun to some merit being an alternative to FFXI.

    Communication is one of the greatest and powerful things in any MMO on any conversation relating to chit chat or making an event getting a step closer to story content. However, because of the population shortage there is what is called a language barrier and limit of people that English speaking. Sure, I can speak a little Japanese but it still sets me apart from fluent language speaking players. Wutai is either you're on your own doing what you want in control, or you join in a particular shell holder group doing all what the game offers that can be done.

    But finding a linkshell is like finding a needle in a hay stack. As mentioned, either a language is needed, or as it stands now, required job that is needed to aid shell holders just to do events that is needed more than one person. However, the problem lies here that there are very few majority event shells on Wutai already have jobs needed or a requirement to join. I started out pug because I love the job. I stand currently at a job of 44 but no open doors due to certain jobs needed or rank. Even worse, there are shell holder applications. I understand registering websites to join and keep track of members, but to apply and make resume like to join is absurd. I cringe every time I hear an application is needed just to join a shell holder group.

    There is no point since the game is still in development, and I can't stress this enough.
    Even more or less, there are very few major social shell holders to join or an active one that does events are open. The smaller the population, the shorter amount of groups to join. Please keep an open mind if you were to look for an experience party most social groups and other foreign languages will say "linkshell only" or "French only". This is just one of the examples.

    Economy & item availability are a key factor. When items are needed or especially for crafting/skilling up it's not available. Even worse, less population can be a hit or miss . It can be a huge problem when you want to sell things that no one wants to buy. If there are no items of that kind available on the ward search list, then most likely the item should sell. Am I correct, supply and demand, isn't it? However, if the item is needed and very few people are selling it, it becomes costly. With population is the reason why these problems are arising here on Wutai.

    Events or activities is also a hit or miss factor. As mentioned above, if you plan on solo'ing chances are you're going to most likely miss out on dungeons or even events where they are not solo'ble at all. They will require more than one person if you want something done or obtaining something that is needed. Obviously, more people would indicate more activity or more interest to an activity where both parties are interested.

    Devs, if you are reading this please construct a server transfer or merging if possible. You will do a great favor among many players and increasing game activity of interest. If you take the time to come down to make some sort of survey on Wutai, you would know the shoes that I am in now. There are several players or even social shell holders who stand there all day that do nothing. Yes, this is something I have witnessed from time to time where I craft in a corner just to witness comments of things such as "I beat the game", "I have nothing left to level", or even worse on very rare occasions "having infinite gil feels so good".

    Thank you for reading. My support to gamers of Pc/console.
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    Last edited by Fouluryu; 09-17-2011 at 02:27 PM. Reason: Correction/Info

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    They don't seem to be too terribly focused on playerbase issues right now but I agree with you.
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    low population is a death spiral.

    This is why TERA merges servers before it becomes a big problem.
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    It's a huge problem.
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    i'm confused on tera, people keep saying it failed, but it not even out yet. isn't it just beta in korea at moment? i was looking forward to playing it, but every time i mention it or be like tera ftw lol. people be like too bad it died. like it been out already and doomed.

    sorry to derail, on to topic i agree, there was a few threads like this but i doubt they will ever merge till later. but really it was probably another huge reason people left. you can have a empty game with nothing to do, but have a full 2-3k population and it would of kept alot of players in game. just by being able to grind all day without hard work and nm's all day long running. having people just around you with the feel like your in a mmo would of help keep alot more in game.

    but i guess merging is a sign of weakness they don't want to show right now so they will just let it ride i assume till ps3 launch then worry bout it but really would of loved a full server right now. least one ..then let us move again later.
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    On topic: There won't be server merges for a very long time. PS3 players will likely flood the low-pop worlds once they get access to ff14, and let's not forget about returning PC players once they find the game to their liking as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    low population is a death spiral.

    This is why TERA merges servers before it becomes a big problem.
    They don't merge servers before it becomes a problem, they merge it because it's a problem financially lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    i'm confused on tera, people keep saying it failed, but it not even out yet. isn't it just beta in korea at moment? i was looking forward to playing it, but every time i mention it or be like tera ftw lol. people be like too bad it died. like it been out already and doomed.
    Um..no. Tera been out for almost a year now in Korea and 1 month in Japan. Tera is steadily losing players in Korea whom all share the same complaint, and in Japan it's starting to slowly taper off because it's too expensive for what little it has to offer.

    Then they push back the western release to 2012 which turned a lot of people off of it. Not to mention BHS having to develop even the Korean versions to fit western style of play which they actually dislike furthers hurt the game. So yes, Tera is indeed failing. Though posters like Viion will deny it and compare it to FFXIV as that's all he can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    i'm confused on tera, people keep saying it failed, but it not even out yet. isn't it just beta in korea at moment? i was looking forward to playing it, but every time i mention it or be like tera ftw lol. people be like too bad it died. like it been out already and doomed.

    sorry to derail, on to topic i agree, there was a few threads like this but i doubt they will ever merge till later. but really it was probably another huge reason people left. you can have a empty game with nothing to do, but have a full 2-3k population and it would of kept alot of players in game. just by being able to grind all day without hard work and nm's all day long running. having people just around you with the feel like your in a mmo would of help keep alot more in game.

    but i guess merging is a sign of weakness they don't want to show right now so they will just let it ride i assume till ps3 launch then worry bout it but really would of loved a full server right now. least one ..then let us move again later.
    TERA failed in Korea because of lack of content (and endgame) and the team's inability to listen to the players. (They pretty much released a broken game too)
    The director resigned and was replaced by the director for L2 (ironic) and the game had 2 (now 3) server merges since it's release in January. The game is financially failing as well due to not meeting shareholder's goal of 90million, which the game fell short of 30 million..

    TERA is currently suffering the same fate in Japan due to the high price of the monthly fee of 2000yen (which is higher than what is usually paid in Japan) That also suffers from lack of content and endgame content after level 58 and RMT running rampart.

    En Masse is releasing the game westernized and censored a race's clothing for looking like young girls dressed like strippers and sexual animations *which wouldn't be accepted here for falling under child porn laws. (and the problem is, they won't listen to the fans and literally ban users that complain or try to help en masse make the game better by putting in their own suggestions) sadly that isn't changing en Masse's decision, despite the game being rated M, and despite making promises, they quickly took their promises back and lied to their fanbase. The game isn't out in NA yet, and already the company is getting bad rep.

    (sorry to derail a bit folks, had a long explanation to do) carry on.
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    Last edited by AsterBarnivere; 09-18-2011 at 03:03 AM.

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    Transfer pl0x. More EU peeps to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    TERA is currently suffering the same fate in Japan due to the high price of the monthly fee of 30yen *or something along that line* (which is higher than what is usually paid in Japan) That also suffers from lack of content and endgame content after level 58 and RMT running rampart.
    If I recall it's about 2k yen a month, which is equivalent of $30 USD. Still, way too expensive regardless. 30 yen would actually keep people playing through those problems haha.
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