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  1. #21
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    KittytheSheGeek's Avatar
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    Kenna Silversun
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    If that's their only reason for kicking you, they're assholes. My raid team has a member that's colorblind and I never even knew it until we got to T9 and he had trouble with the golems. As there was no way we were going to kick a friend (and a very good black mage) for something like that, we adjusted our strategy. The adjustment? Mark the green golem. It's simple and quick and solves the problem. Why your team couldn't be bothered to tell you what color of tether you had is beyond comprehension. It sounds more like an excuse to me.

    As far as quitting, don't let something like that sour you to the entire game. As long as that was the only issue, I'm sure you can find a static that's perfectly willing to work with you.
    My thoughts exactly. There are ways around the colour blind issue, so maybe next time just ask your party to use marks. But you really shouldn't quit over something with such an easy solution.
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  2. #22
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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Your group could have just marked your tether partner and had you follow him.
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  3. #23
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    If you can't see the colors you can still see the lines look distinctly different visually. If SE made all the lines the same color you could still tell them apart because, Red/green look like a 2 separate lines similar to a dna helix while the blue and white look like 1 solid line.
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    Kaishen Commodore
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    They ought to add debuff icons for them, and all marker/tether mechanics in general that don't already have them.
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  5. #25
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    They ought to add debuff icons for them, and all marker/tether mechanics in general that don't already have them.
    There are debuff icons. But they are also colored green and blue.

    To OP: not hard to believe that seven other people are dumb enough at video games to not notice the design of the tethers themselves are distinct. This is almost as bad as the time nobody knew what I was talking about when I described the tower symbols in t8.
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  6. #26
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    Mister Wonderful
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    I'm still confused why it seems like every patch SE puts in a new attack that effects colorblind people so much they have to change it. They just did this with Shiva's AoE as well, t9 Golems, garuda tethers. And then they have to patch it in later to fix it, instead of thinking of this shit before they make it yet again. I mean they have to adjust it nearly every time, wouldn't that tell you as a company maybe to adjust it before adding it?

    Someone in my raid group is colorblind but we make do. It just still doesn't make sense though. Have your colors, but some sort of indicator or icon changes are needed because not everyone can tell these things solely on color.
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  7. #27
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    They ought to add debuff icons for them, and all marker/tether mechanics in general that don't already have them.
    This would be awesome for things like golems in t9(which can also cause issues for those who are colorblind), they could have debuffs that say their color. I know there's other ways to work around it, but this way I think is still better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    There are debuff icons. But they are also colored green and blue.
    Really? o_O I never noticed the debuffs for the tethers. Of course I just look for the line colors...

    Whats the names of the debuffs? If they both have the same name it defeats the purpose.
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    Last edited by Elim; 01-27-2015 at 07:55 AM.

  8. #28
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    ColorOfSakura's Avatar
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    Aerik Tirel
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zankes View Post
    I have seen many raid teams with colorblind people and T11 has never been issue for them.
    Not everyone who is colorblind has the same spectrum or severity of colorblindness. For example, I have a form of total colorblindness. Total in the sense that while I can see colors, my brain has a hard time distinguishing large groups of them from one another.

    Some people are only Green/Red, some people are only Blue/Yellow. Some people have monochromacy/achromatopsia (they can only see in greyscale and generally suffer from light sensitivity as a result.) Some people can be colorblind but more easily distinguish certain shades of red from green.

    Just because you've seen a lot of raid teams with colorblind members, don't assume that all colorblind individuals are going to have the same experience in game. Because of my form of colorblindness, I had trouble making out Isgebind's dive AoEs because they were blue on white, and a similar issue with Shiva's Icicle Impact patterns (and most colorblind individuals have no problems with these at all.)

    It's not unthinkable for someone to have issues with the T11 tethers.
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  9. #29
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    Titania Basilikos
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    You say you're red/green color blind? I hate to say this but it sounds like you're full of it and a bad player, blaming your badness on color blindness, rather than trying to improve yourself. The two possible tether colors are red&green and blue. If you're red/green color blind as you say, then you would not be able to distinguish between the red and green of one set of tethers but it doesn't matter because that's not the thing you need to care about. All you have to do is see that the blue tether is different from the other tether. Source: my roommate is red/green colorblind and has no problems.

    FFXIV won the award for most disability-accessible mainstream game of the year for 2013. The dev team has consistently designed mechanics with disabled, colorblind, and hearing impaired players in mind. I'm ashamed that you'd use your disability to dump on the monumental efforts of the dev team to make this game accessible for YOU SPECIFICALLY.

    tl;dr you're bad and you're blaming the dev team for the fact that you're bad, even though the dev team specifically designed the fight to be accessible to you
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  10. #30
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    Ein Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Really? o_O I never noticed the debuffs for the tethers. Of course I just look for the line colors...

    Whats the names of the debuffs? If they both have the same name it defeats the purpose.
    There are debuffs, but they only show up when the mechanic becomes lethal (when they connect the players) IIRC so it doesn't really help in this case, since both sets should be in position at that point.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 01-27-2015 at 07:59 AM.

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