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    ErzaScarlet77's Avatar
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    Lili Reina
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    Faerie
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    Dragoon Lv 80

    why are the contents in this game always either ridiculously hard or stupidly easy?

    its either final coil "die and the entire party wipe" or snoozefest like fenrir

    why isnt there a balance?
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    Jinrya Geki
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    Cause no developer nowadays respects the intelligence of it's players.
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    Firepower Shinryu
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I think the issue was when they made Labyrinth of the Ancients they said it was "too difficult" and spent another few months simplifying it. Looking back at LOTA nowadays I can say that it was possibly one of the most difficult things outside of coil because too many people didn't listen.

    Don't kill skeletons next to each other (everyone wipes)
    Stay on platform and kill atomos, kill adds before too many spawn (everyone wipes)
    I'd say I don't think I remember wiping very often to the boss where you protect the pots
    Don't let bombs get to center (everyone wipes)
    click towers, don't face behemoth to towers, keep iron giant away from comets, don't drop comets too close to behemoth (30 minutes of everyone wiping)
    get to platforms when sword goes red (everyone wipes)

    So when they made Syrcus Tower it was simple and just re-used things people already knew from doing the first raid to get into ST. Since then they have had everything be easy mode apart from the coils, Also since Titan i don't think there's things around where individuals can essentially wipe parties anymore on the simpler content either.

    As mentioned below, I think what they have tried to do is make the less intense content "idiot proof" where one stupid person doesn't compromise everyone else's ability to complete the content.
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    Last edited by Firepower; 01-16-2015 at 01:25 PM.

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    N'ico Yazawa
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    Twintania
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    Yeah well as an actual gamer playing this game, I can understand why there's no respect for the 'intelligence' of the players. Intelligent players will be held back by the swarms of unintelligent masses who find concepts such as stacking behind a boss to be way too difficult for them.

    I'm torn between wanting hard content and wanting content that I can actually clear without being held back by idiots all day every day.
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    Cutie Mcsnuggles
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    I think what would help is tightening up ilevel sync once it's reimplemented. All 2.0-2.1 content should be synced to i90, 2.2-2.3 i110 and 2.4-2.5 i130. A lot of content that used to have a moderate difficulty has been rendered obsolete because we out gear it. However they should also implement more moderate difficulty content as well.

    I know a lot of people argue this with how the original Pharos Sirius was often ignored by players but that had more to do with the rewards not being on par with the difficulty then the difficulty being too high. I would like to see more content around that difficulty and slightly harder implemented with the proper rewards.
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    Terrini Littlebottom
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    It is the ongoing dilemma isn't it? I really wish I could do Coils... I think I know turn five fairly well but I don't have a static and DF fails me miserably in the party department... I dislike running LotA because of the lack of coordination for tactics that need a lot and everything is so arbitrary... I like ST because it's easier to explain and understand. WoD seems like it may be stepping back to the LotA mould a little but hopefully it will still be easy to understand the mechanics.
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    ~Terra-chan~

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    J'esshica Clahne
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    Because the middle area of content you just consider easy content.
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    Luna Hoshino
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    Yeah well as an actual gamer playing this game, I can understand why there's no respect for the 'intelligence' of the players. Intelligent players will be held back by the swarms of unintelligent masses who find concepts such as stacking behind a boss to be way too difficult for them.

    I'm torn between wanting hard content and wanting content that I can actually clear without being held back by idiots all day every day.
    Pretty much this. There are people who still can't comprehend that you shouldn't stack Hailstorms in Shiva EX.
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  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    its either final coil "die and the entire party wipe" or snoozefest like fenrir

    why isnt there a balance?
    Because other than final coil most players over gear them so they are much easier than designed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Cause no developer nowadays respects the intelligence of it's players.
    Something I have learn in years playing MMOs is that there are really stupid people playing them, too many.
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Difficulty means very little to me. So long as I find the game engaging. And for the most part, I have (for bosses).
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