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    Hurray! Finally saved up 6mil for my personal house!

    UPDATE! August 18th, 2015

    This one was really good to see. Finally saw the words I needed to hear from Yoshi-P himself.

    Housing-related
    1:42:17
    Q: Do you have any plans to increase the number of furnishings we can place in our house?
    A: We’re currently working on features that will automatically relinquish houses that haven't been used in some time, as well as a feature for moving your house, and thinking of increasing the cap after this, so please give us some more time. We’re first going to deal with the shortage of available land.

    1:43:01
    Q: I really love the scenery in the new areas. Do you have plans to introduce a housing ward in Ishgard?
    A: We’ll first implement a feature to automatically relinquish unused houses in order to increase the availability of land. In parallel, we’re also working on quality of life improvements for the extended wards. Once these are complete, we’re move onto optimizing the servers so we can increase the amount of furnishings that can be placed in houses. Without taking care of these first, players won’t be able to transfer their houses without relinquishing their existing house first, and this also creates a situation where it leaves an unused house. We'll be progressing with this one step at a time, and will be gradually applying changes from Patch 3.1 onwards. The Dragonsong War hasn't ended yet, so it’ll take some time before we can add a housing ward in Ishgard.

    1:44:46
    Q: Can you make it possible to share a house with our Eternal Bond partner?
    A: While this is not limited to Eternal Bond partners, we are planning to implement a system in Patch 3.1 for housemates. With this system you’ll be able to give permissions to share gardening, and chocobo stables, as well as allow others to place furnishings.


    UPDATE! August 10th, 2015

    JPGames.de: Several servers have an overpopulation problem. Would you consider letting people change the server for free from a high-traffic to a low-traffic server?

    NY: If you move people from the busy server to some empty server, then we have to have some reward, otherwise they won’t do it, because people want to go to the busy servers. There are so many people there, it is more easy to team up with other players. In the team we think about support for moving a complete Free Company, so we are already aware of the situation and think about something, but it will take time.
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    Not exactly a complete solution but If we could transfer our whole FC, Gill and all, I know we would all chip in for this! This isnt going to fix all the issues but as long as it doesnt come with a $100+ price tag, it will be a good start, especially with the upcoming EU Data Center!

    MMORPG.de: A lot of players complain about the housing situation. They want to buy a house, but it is impossible to find free plots on some worlds. Are there any plans to improve the situation?

    NY: Yes, we are working on it, and there are three phases. The first step is working on abandoned houses, so there’s no owner, or player there actually. The second step is to make it available to players that they can move house. There is no system in game yet that can help you to change the house, so we want to help and support this in the game. With these two steps we will be able to have some empty plots. Then we want to see if we have to open up an Ishgard plot or add more plot to the existing areas. That is the third step. We want to be careful here and judge the situation first. We are working on step 1 and 2 already. There will be some updates, probably in patches 3.1 to 3.15, around this time.
    This is the most promising thing I have read regarding houses! Hopefully we can see some more people in houses by Patch 3.1/3.2. I also like the plot transfer system, this allows for upgrading and that is a great thing!


    UPDATE! July 11th, 2015

    Q63. I really love the scenery in the new areas. Do you have plans to introduce a housing ward in Ishgard?

    A63. We’re currently working to solve the inconvenience in the extended wards, so we believe it’ll be after this. This is because we think we first need to create a transfer system for players who wish to move to an Ishgard area.


    UPDATE! May 11th, 2015

    Glad to hear them acknowledge there IS a shortage of housing. A nice change from the "its fine and working as intended" they said when they released Personal Housing. Anyway, here's the new quote and the source.

    They have plans to add housing in Ishgard but in 1-2 years at earliest. There's not enough land right now so they plan to work on that first. If you're not sure about spending money on housing just buy a large one now.
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    UPDATE! April 27th, 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Woot! It's not a big announcement and more detail would be nice but at least we got this:

    Additional land will be added for purchase after the release of Heavensward. (Yoshida)
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    While this is the quickest solution to availability I'm glad they are not oblivious to the fact people want their houses. This just gives us enough time to save up for our Large Company house! Staying tuned to more information and I will add it to the OP.


    Unfortunately due to the way personal housing is not personal, I cannot get one. Out of all the wards in all the districts in all the City States, there is a total of 5 houses still up for sale on Balmung in the "Free Company" sections. Three are Large houses at 40+mil a pop, the other two are medium houses for 38mil a pop.

    I love this game and pretty much everything about it but this one feature makes no sense to me. I know i'm not the fastest to get things and I really am not bothered by that but I really feel slighted and punished for not being in the top tier of people who get everything done in the first week after the patch drops.

    Is this truly what Yoshi-P wanted? Is there any way to add a few sections full of only small houses for personal homes? Can the dev's please revisit how this is functioning and look into future changes to "personal" homes? I guess I could pay $80+ to transfer me and my family to another server that is lower population just so I can get a home but at that point, I cant even take my Gil with me!

    I know this has been mentioned before and I know they have already said they want to reward people who have the money. For me, money was NEVER the issue, availability was. So it has come to pass that i plugged away at the game long enough to get a home of my own and cannot get one because they are sold out. Best I can do is buy one from someone selling the plots in PF at prices much higher than they should be.

    EDIT:

    Been seeing people saying a few things that I felt needed a little clearing up. Things like "its your own fault for picking a populated server" or Money WAS the issue if you didn't even have it till now" etc. I made a post that got buried rather quickly that I will add below because I think it further elaborates on these issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    1) Money was never the issue, availability was. Money can be earned if one is frugal enough. Money doesnt matter at all if all plots are sold by the time you can log in due to server congestion immediately following the patch that brought more plots in. Also, what do new players do? is it then their fault for not buying the game at 2.0 launch or earlier? I know that 2.5 will bring in/back many players as will 3.0. With the way the housing is done, there will never be enough for everyone let alone just for those who want one. To be truthful, I've had the money for a while but with an influx of new players and the continued issues on many servers, I wanted to bring it to light again.

    2) The current housing system is fine for FC housing but not ok for Personal housing. A personal house should have been a separate instance available to every character once they met the requirements. First come first serve should never have been a requirement for a personal house. It has been done this way in many other games (FFXI, WildStar, WKC, etc)

    3) I did not pick Balmung because it was highly populated, when I chose Balmung it wasn't even an unofficial RP server. Come to think of it I was on Fabul when they merged with Balmung so I didnt even have the choice... I have been here (except for a short stint) since 1.0. I do not RP but wanted a house to decorate, have chocobo stables, a garden and crafting stuff. The free company I am in is in the same boat because we are a smaller group of closer knit players. Each time we saved up enough for a house, it got sold. So the best I get is an inn room... I would love to color my chocobo and I wonder how this will affect the chocobo breeding for the chocobo racing coming with the Golden Saucer? Will I need a house for that too?

    4) It was not a "surprise" that the plots were sold out. I knew once I heard how "Personal" houses were getting implemented that (especially due to the server I am on and its current state)if i did not have the funds for my house and log on within the first 10 min of the servers going live, I would not get a house. The OP was just to state that I finally had enough for a small personal house and as predicted, there are none to be had. Now, even if they add in more wards, they will also get sold out within min of them going live, either by people like me or people who buy multiple plots to sell them to other players and make some coin.

    5) As for server capacity, it take up so many resources BECAUSE of the way its implemented. I know they cant design the game to cater to a single server but this is not the only server having this issue and it could have been avoided if it had been done differently, imo.

    6) This is comparable to how the Market wards were initially set up. It was a disaster and ended up having to be completely overhauled (and still slightly broken, but better). If they can fix the market wards, I really hope they can fix the personal housing.

    7) Housing server structure needs to be adjusted at the very least. Currently it looks like it is per database, We get 32 housing wards for all servers on this data base, To give more housing for a specific server that ran out of space, we also have to give more space to servers that may not really need it. If it was per server at the very least they would be able to add more wards to the more populated servers on an as needed basis. This would prevent wasted space on the extremely low populated servers and give housing to those who desperately want it on the extremely highly populated servers.
    I sincerely hope that during 3.0 they take the time to redo the housing system to make it more available for everyone. To date the last responses we had from devs regarding this is "Working as intended" and "The team that did housing is doing the Golden Saucer content right now and will not be available to even look at it until after Golden Saucer is released".

    TL;DR

    Please Devs, can we get a more recent response to this situation. Is everything still "A-Ok" or has this finally been recognized as an issue that will be looked at. Not looking for any details even, I just want to know if I can get my hopes up for a personal house or if I should not even bother saving my Gil anymore. Please, unlike the new jobs being "gated" this WILL affect new players by way of locking them out of what is becoming a large portion of content. I really want to get our FC house too so we can explore Heavensward in our own airship.
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    Last edited by MageBlack; 08-19-2015 at 11:43 AM.

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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Youre on one of the most populated servers, so yeah, likely not getting a house unless you got it day 1.

    Most others servers have a good amount of Smalls left still
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    Another good example of why they way they did "Personal Housing" in FFXIV is one of the poorest ways to do it. The only reason I could see them doing personal homes like this is for the sense of community, otherwise, it makes 0 sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I guess I could pay $80+ to transfer me and my family to another server that is lower population just so I can get a home but at that point, I cant even take my Gil with me!
    There may be a limit to gil transfer, but there's no limit on the item on your pocket. You can buy some allagan gold pieces, put it into your retainer, then sell it to the npc of the server you want to be on. Or you can buy lots of clusters and sell it on the marketboard of the server you want to be on. These items always sell.
    And also 6mil is not that big. You can give your retainers 1mil gil each and they will be able to carry it to your new server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sounders View Post
    There may be a limit to gil transfer, but there's no limit on the item on your pocket. You can buy some allagan gold pieces, put it into your retainer, then sell it to the npc of the server you want to be on. Or you can buy lots of clusters and sell it on the marketboard of the server you want to be on. These items always sell.
    And also 6mil is not that big. You can give your retainers 1mil gil each and they will be able to carry it to your new server.
    I "could" do that but the biggest reason I don't want to is I have made a lot of friends on Balmung, built a community, and I would have to transfer at least my immediate family (Myself, Wife and Three son's accounts totalling about $100) just so at least we can stay together, all so I could get a house. I saw this coming when they announced how personal housing was being done. This is the worst way to have introduced personal housing. I'm so disappointed that I will never own a house in this game, it was one of the features I was looking forward to the most out of everything they said was coming. I just hope the Manderville Golden Saucer and the card game isnt as big of a let down. I think it will be ok though.
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    Its the same on Gilgamesh. Checked every region, every district. There are no smalls left. It's ridiculous really. I feel like i'm being punished for not exploiting the gil markets like others did or buying it from sellers.
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    No small left on Leviathian either.
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    ITT: Players discover the existence of a real estate market.
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    There is always going to be someone that doesn't have one (including me).

    The way i see everything in this game exploited by one person to the detriment of like ten others, why is it surprising to anyone? Sorry to see someone's RP is messed up but, unfortunately this is a imperfect game. Everyone can't pretend to be god, the sky is only so big. I'll sit on the ground with you and we can curse the gods together...lol
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    Last edited by Cherie; 01-05-2015 at 08:22 AM.

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    I suspect they'll add additional subdivisions when 3.0 comes out. One has to hope they'll not be high priced and require devaluation as well. Good luck.
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