Buffing Warriors damage in Xpac?

[Kuwagami]

I didn't say that PLD is a parry tank. Yes PLD is a mitigation tank.

You didn't understand the point I was trying to get across.

what I wanted to say is that no tank's place is going to be "at stake". The concept of DRK (parry/evasion" is new to FFxiv so nothing can compare to it yet.

[Gangaloo]

what I wanted to say is that no tank's place is going to be "at stake". The concept of DRK (parry/evasion" is new to FFxiv so nothing can compare to it yet.

This is why I said you didn't understand my point. We don't know what DRK will bring to the table so it's impossible to gauge whether or not it will "replace" one of the current existing tanks or compliment certain groups better than other tanks... or possibility bring nothing to the table at all.

The OP can't cry "ZOMG BUFF X CLASS DUE TO DRK!" because we know nothing of the class.

For all we know... DRK could be a parry / mitigation based tank, or it could be a parry / ???? tank. There's no real point even talking about it until Yoshi reveals more info about the class.

[Kuwagami]

TFor all we know... DRK could be a parry / mitigation based tank, or it could be a parry / ???? tank. There's no real point even talking about it until Yoshi reveals more info about the class.

yeah but thing is, we KNOW it's parry/evasion though

[Rufalus]

I think it wouldn't hurt if they increased damage output a little for all tanks. Might make it more fun for people to be contributing more to the party's overall damage. Don't know how Warrior compares to Dark Knight yet, but DRK has the coolness appeal. WAR's new AF set in the expansion is more fluffy, but DRK's armor is all badass looking, so people will gravitate there.

[TheodoreMcIntyre]

yeah but thing is, we KNOW it's parry/evasion though

Source please

[ZaenKael]

Source please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETQY3OGnotA

more specifically at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETQY...ailpage#t=2585

[aisustrong]

I think it wouldn't hurt if they increased damage output a little for all tanks. Might make it more fun for people to be contributing more to the party's overall damage. Don't know how Warrior compares to Dark Knight yet, but DRK has the coolness appeal. WAR's new AF set in the expansion is more fluffy, but DRK's armor is all badass looking, so people will gravitate there.

new war gear? link

[Zaft]

To begin, we know nothing about Dark Knight's toolset. There's no point in discussing it. However, we can discuss the type of tank Dark Knight is.

There are two problems that arise with a parry/evasion (henceforth referred too as avoidance) tank.

First is that most of the heavy hitting attacks cannot be avoided. Because Warriors and Paladins have essentially the same EHP, they can pop a CD or two to survive these attacks. However, we do not know how Square Enix will balance Dark Knight to have a similar EHP. This may cause problems, or require more often tank swaps.

Second, avoidance is based on RNG. While some people reference Death Knight as a succesful avoidance tank, in reality, it was first and foremost a bubble tank. The majority of its damage mitigation came not from avoidance, but from blood shield absorbing the attacks. We don't know what tools will be in Dark Knight's belt, but we can already assume that their mitigation is going to be much more variable than other tanks.

[Reynhart]

The majority of avoidance of NIN in FFXI also came with shadows that absorbed hits, even though they had a really high evasion.
The result was...terrible.

For me, what can be done for a dodge/parry tanking is activating skills that avoid perfectly the next attack of one type (One for auto-attack, one for physical skills, one for spells, etc...) with a very short duration.
So, not a "RNG parry" tank or a "blink" tank but a "perfect guard" tank, like you could have in fightning games, but with a little more window time to reduce lag problem.

On paper, it could be interesting, but, to implement it, it would require a lot of testing to make it competitive and viable for every fight.

[Lamia-Blackheart]

just to be clear, which dark knight skills have better life drain than warrior?