ff12 and ff14

[Sapphic]

One question I've wondered, so many of the Single player Final Fantasy have more technology in them, sprawling metropolis, automated travel (cars, trains etc) yet the MMOs 11 and 14 are more swords and sorcery than advanced tech.

Just wondered why such a difference for the MMO FF games. Albeit the older titles have been more Fantasy, just like from 7 onwards (that I know of maybe earlier if someone can confirm) The worlds have been bent more towards futuristic with fantasy swords and sorcery elements.

Maybe thats why Praetorium for me gives the most Final Fantasy vibe of all the dungeons.

[TinyRedLeaf]

The short answer: Tetsuya Nomura.

He was heavily involved in the designs for Final Fantasy VII, VIII, X and XIII, some of the arguably more "space-age" titles in the franchise.

The worlds have been bent more towards futuristic with fantasy swords and sorcery elements.

I think you'll find that a number of fans of the franchise would disagree with your impression, especially the older ones who have played Final Fantasy games since the beginning. For many of them, the move towards futuristic designs was a departure from the norm, and that's why FFIX was so popular: they regarded it as a return to the franchise's "sword-and-sorcery" roots.

In any case, you'll find that almost all Final Fantasy titles have some sort of "futuristic" elements in them. I, for one, am not overly fond of space-age elements in my fantasy role-playing games unless they are part of its integral design. My favourite title in the franchise, Final Fantasy Tactics, does not feature any faux future designs, and that's likely part of why I love it so much. Contemporary fans liken it to the Game of Thrones, which is an apt comparison. Back when I first played it, I simply loved dark and gritty tone. It was a game filled with ethos and pathos. The other Final Fantasy titles I enjoy are very much in the same vein.

[Balipu]

Unless you use "The Void-Multiverce Theory".

Basically Each final fantasy taking place, not in a seperate world, but a seperate parallel deminsion that is connected by the void.

This is the basis theory for the "There's only one Gilgimesh" Paradox. That every Gilgimesh ever encountered is infact the same one that Exdeath cast into the void in FF5, just apearing slightly diffrent as to not stand compleatly out in the diffrrent worlds.

No, not the void. The rift. I got it confused as well but those are different. Like, the void of 5 was imprisoned in the rift. The void is like the underworld.

AS far as we know the only ones directly related are 7 and 10.

14 seems to cherry pick the best of each. Mostly 3, 6 and 7 but plenty of 12 as well.

[Kuwagami]

AS far as we know the only ones directly related are 7 and 10.

7 and 10 ? I might have missed that relation >_>

you forgot the whole bunch of Ivalice games, which are all interconnected.

[Grayve]

7 and 10 ? I might have missed that relation >_>

you forgot the whole bunch of Ivalice games, which are all interconnected.

Yeah, 10 is confirmed to be related int FFX-2. Shinra, one of the al behd, is confirmed to be the ancestor of the founders of Shin Ra corporation in FF7. They are not the same world, though, as the FFX world eventually settled other planets via space travel some point in it's distant future. Or FF7's distant past.

[Balipu]

Yeah, 10 is confirmed to be related int FFX-2. Shinra, one of the al behd, is confirmed to be the ancestor of the founders of Shin Ra corporation in FF7. They are not the same world, though, as the FFX world eventually settled other planets via space travel some point in it's distant future. Or FF7's distant past.

Yes. As for Ivalice, we have 12, we have tactics which is an ingame book that might be true, might be not. And there is tactics advance that's a dreamworld imagined by an earth kid based on what his friend told him about final fantasy tactics.

[Kaiser-Ace]

No, not the void. The rift. I got it confused as well but those are different. Like, the void of 5 was imprisoned in the rift. The void is like the underworld.

AS far as we know the only ones directly related are 7 and 10.

14 seems to cherry pick the best of each. Mostly 3, 6 and 7 but plenty of 12 as well.

Ah ok, so the Void and Rift actually ARE two diffrent places. I was under the impression that the two names were interchangable.

[Brannigan]

My favourite title in the franchise, Final Fantasy Tactics, does not feature any faux future designs, and that's likely part of why I love it so much. Contemporary fans liken it to the Game of Thrones, which is an apt comparison. Back when I first played it, I simply loved dark and gritty tone. It was a game filled with ethos and pathos. The other Final Fantasy titles I enjoy are very much in the same vein.

Well, there's not as much technology stuff in FFT, but they did have the whole ancient super advanced civilization thing going on. Plus, you can recruit a robot that shoots giant laser beams to kill things for you.

[Enkidoh]

Yeah, 10 is confirmed to be related int FFX-2. Shinra, one of the al behd, is confirmed to be the ancestor of the founders of Shin Ra corporation in FF7. They are not the same world, though, as the FFX world eventually settled other planets via space travel some point in it's distant future. Or FF7's distant past.

I wouldn't take a tongue-in-cheek comment made by Yoshinori Kitase during an interview as 'proof' of that though - it's never been confirmed in any official capacity either in FFVII's Compilation or FFX itself - the character Shinra and his comments about 'planet energy' and 'building a city that never sleeps' is just the same sort of thing as the Ascians having the names of the Scions of Light from FFXII - a name reference for fanservice and nothing more.

The fact Kitase joked about it during that interview shows even he didn't take the idea seriously and was just having a laugh at the interviewer's expense at actually considering such a ridiculous idea.

[Bluevann]

So I see a lot of hints of ff12 in ff14 am I missing something is there a conection or is it just the naming

Now the real question is, are they hints of FF12, or are they hints of...?



Cause FFXII was pretty much a rip off of that.

Vaan = Luke
Ashe = Leia
Balthier = Han Solo
Fran = Chewbakka
Dalmasca = Alderaan
Golmore = Endor
The Empire = The Empire
Judges = Darth Vader
Jagd Yensa = Tatooin
Urutan-Yensa = Jawa

Aaaand someone's in the Empire was the father of someone in the party.

Slightly off-topic, but I'll never get tired of making people notice, lol. But yes, there's theories Hydaelyn and Ivalice may be in the same universe at least.