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  1. #21
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    Dalimin Dataru
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaquelleAvarosa View Post
    So, are people genuinely against content (vanity) that are unattainable in game or are they simply hating the term micro transactions?
    Speaking for myself, I'm a sucker for "limited time" or "exclusive" offers. Such as the cait-sith minion which was only available from pre-orders.
    I did try to justify pre-ordering it for the PS4, even though I knew I would be playing mainly on the PC, but in the end I just wanted a useless virtual item that serves no purpose.
    If I was really wanted FFXIV back-up copy for the PS4, I would have just waited for the price drop instead.

    So, some people might be trying to justify their purchase, when they really just want some virtual item attached to it.

    However, if you try to apply the same reasoning to buying stuff on the Cash Shop, then I have no desire to actually purchase any.
    Because;
    1. It isn't a limited time item
    2. It isn't benefiting anyone in-game
    3. It's frivolous spending of disposal income

    Sometimes those bonus code items are a nice additional incentive to purchase merchandise. I was contemplating in buying the artbook when it went on sale, but decided not to get it yet. I'm also a sucker for buying artbooks.
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    Last edited by lackofwords; 12-02-2014 at 12:54 AM.
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  2. #22
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    Zanzhiz Exaverion
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    YEAH! STOP THE CUTSCENE CLIPPING!!!
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  3. #23
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    HumsterMKX's Avatar
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by reptiliane View Post


    Done :3
    OMG... I can't stop laughing

    Thankssss
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    Heli's Black Market open for business. Sells black market items for your exotic needs.

    closed for business till further notice

  4. #24
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    What if tomorrow they said that in the Golden Saucer you can do Chocobo Racing once a day but could buy a voucher from the CS that let's you race more times?
    At that point, they're gating content behind the CS, which would be unacceptable for me. That's where I'd feel they're jumping off the slippery slope because that can easily be applied to lock outs or raid/trial entry as well. Especially in a subscription model, the last thing a cash shop should ever do is gate content behind it or provide players with buffs/advantages in any form (esp if it's exclusive to cash shop); that's a precursor to pay to win.
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  5. #25
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    The more threads the better, it just shows how disgusted people is about this cash-shop thing, may be SE will listen to us at once.
    Everyone knows this will change nothing, just as it changed nothing with the housing price..
    Also you are totally wrong, more threads will make the other threads vanish, while one thread, with a lot of posts, would make it possible for the devs to see how much people really care.
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  6. #26
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Everyone knows this will change nothing, just as it changed nothing with the housing price..
    Also you are totally wrong, more threads will make the other threads vanish, while one thread, with a lot of posts, would make it possible for the devs to see how much people really care.
    I imagine the devs look at both thread length and number of threads. I can't imagine they'd look through three pages of threads complaining about the cash shop and think "Well, there's no problem here, some of them are barely 10 pages long"

    Besides, a really long thread could be 99% of people in favour arguing with the OP. 50+ threads with negative OPs at least indicates there are 50+ people that don't like it.
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  7. #27
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    Razu Erisu
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    Omega
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    You know, some people didn't jump at the "bonus" items not because they were fine with it but because it was a more "elegant" way of marketing, as in, $E didn't go out of their way to wave shinies up our faces... (which they kind of do now...) ( > . >

    I don't know about you but I get this mindset feeling from $E now: "Let's cash shop everything we can!!! ( $ - $ "

    While during the "bonus" items, I didn't get that mindset feeling.
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  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Everyone knows this will change nothing, just as it changed nothing with the housing price..
    housing prices changed a lot.

    Compare prices of plots before devaluation on the top server tier
    Release - Cheapest Small 40M, Most Expensive Large 625M
    Now - Cheapest Small 4M, Most Expensive Large 87.5M
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  9. #29
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    Oerba'dia Vanille
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AzakaTonnerre View Post
    At the end of the day I have no problem with the cash shop. If I don't want to use it I won't, if I do I will. Honestly its not game breaking to me. But acting like poor SE needs funding to deliver us content and the cash shop is going to provide that just isn't entirely accurate.[/URL]
    You're right. If you, or someone doesn't want to use it, you wont. However, if you don't, you're already missing content which you're suposedly already paying with your subscription. I already posted this before when Odin mount was announced. It's like they're charging you to enter a restaurant besides paying for the food. And as people said before, more and more stuff will go into cash shop eventually. People say it's just vanity stuff. Even if it's just vanity, it DOES matter. Vanity is part of the game. When you make your character race, customizing (as far as it allows you to) and getting what's pleasing your view of your character and its surroundings. Why do people then care about glamours, race, hairstyle, colors or whatever when you could just have a stickman character that does skills without animations, just plain damage, why not right? if you don't care about vanity! Well, same goes for minions and mounts (and whatever they decide to put on cash shop, and we know they will). Why play different mmos when they have different styles if all you want to do is damage enemies. Every little piece of game content is relevant, be it vanity or not, and it makes people feel left out when they're already paying for the game.

    It's fine when they give exclusive items for rl events like fanfest mog attire, because you're paying for something you're attending, like a special event. It's optional. With cash shop however they sell you items in-game that you should be able to get because you're already paying for the game.

    Edit: For people saying that microtransactions with cash shop will help to increase game developtment costs when they claim to have millions of accounts and paying subscription, it's like pourin a glass of water into an already full swimming pool saying it will help to get full.
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    Last edited by Edeline; 12-02-2014 at 04:28 AM.

  10. #30
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    A'linhbo Taqah
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    Behemoth
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    You've never been on a game's official forums before, have ya? People feel they need to make ~their~ thoughts known in their own thread versus just adding to another, since they are a special snowflake that needs validation!
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