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    About the Carbuncles ...

    This has probably been done before but it's been bugging me forever.

    Since 2.0's release, players have been asking for the Carbuncles to be added back to SMN. It's been more than a year and there is no news from SE.

    So either,
    1. Feedback loop is broken and they aren't getting the info.
    2. They have "other plans" for the Carbuncles and don't want SMN to have them.
    Personally I just want to play a Class/Job, that works in end-game content, with the Carbuncle as a pet - preferably as a non-targetable pet; feel kind of bad when the poor thing takes hits.

    I don't ask for much.(YMMV) I'm not too concern about things like 1% DPS differences. I just want to play along with a Carbuncle pet.

    Edit:
    I suppose I should explain a little why I care so much.

    For me the Carbuncle was the "deal closer", it's what got me to take the leap and get FFXIV. I started playing under the (mistaken) assumption that I could be an ACN all the way - yes, I was fairly disappointed at Lv 50. LOL

    It is what set FFXIV apart from other MMOs for me - a lot of Western MMOs seem allergic to "cute things"; everything must be "manly"/"intimidating". Without it, FFXIV to me, does somewhat feel like "just another MMO".

    Every MMO has "elemental minions". Every MMO has a "nuker" - although I have been playing my BLM more than my SMN lately ... it's a mage/wizard; nothing wrong with that BTW.
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 12-04-2014 at 03:25 AM.

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    ..or it could be that despite appearances, the "demand" for carbuncle isn't really high enough to warrant the change.
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    Not sure why people seem to think if they bring something up in a format far detacted from SE and the mods SE appoints don't respond, it means SE is ignoring them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    ..or it could be that despite appearances, the "demand" for carbuncle isn't really high enough to warrant the change.
    It's a relatively simple change. Adding 2 spells ...

    It's not as if they have to redesign the Job. Just add 10 Potency to the Carbuncles' attacks. Add 2 spells to the Action list. Done.

    Quote Originally Posted by dday3six View Post
    Not sure why people seem to think if they bring something up in a format far detacted from SE and the mods SE appoints don't respond, it means SE is ignoring them.
    Why are you putting words in my mouth? When did I use "ignore"?

    Do you have anything of significance to add? Or are you just here to start a fight?
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 11-27-2014 at 05:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    Why are you putting words in my mouth? When did I use "ignore"?

    Do you have anything of significance to add? Or are you just here to start a fight?
    'Ignore' in place of the 'feedback loop is broken' are "fightin' words" LoL. Don't get your knickers in a twist, if you can't withstand dissenting opinion, please promptly exit the internet.

    I'm not the one who doesn't understand that SE has very little chance of reading a random thread here. If you really want to get their attention try submitting to the live letters.
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    I'd say the loss of Contagion will hurt you more than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thistledown View Post
    I'd say the loss of Contagion will hurt you more than you think.
    Carbuncle has Contagion; The ability is called Shining Emerald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianmj View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thistledown View Post
    I'd say the loss of Contagion will hurt you more than you think.
    Carbuncle has Contagion; The ability is called Shining Emerald
    This is why players complain that Garuda-Egi and Titan-Egi are really just a reskin of the Carbuncles.

    Their abilities are exactly the same /w the Egis have slightly more potency to their attacks. That's it.

    This is also why I feel adding them back would not be a big problem. If you upgrade the potency of the Carbuncles' abilities ... you effectively can use them as you would the Egis.

    It's also why I have the suspicion that SE might have something else planned for them, hence don't want SMNs summoning them, it's such a trivial change to implement.
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 11-27-2014 at 08:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    This is why players complain that Garuda-Egi and Titan-Egi are really just a reskin of the Carbuncles.

    Their abilities are exactly the same /w the Egis have slightly more potency to their attacks. That's it.

    This is also why I feel adding them back would not be a big problem. If you upgrade the potency of the Carbuncles' abilities ... you effectively can use them as you would the Egis.

    It's also why I have the suspicion that SE might have something else planned for them, hence don't want SMNs summoning them, it's such a trivial change to implement.
    There are lots of threads with suggestions of things people wanna see in the game, and alot of them are the same suggestions everyday. I'm following this forums quite regularly since the day I signed up, but adding the carbuncles as summonable pets to the SMN job is a suggestion that I never ever read or heard before, not even once. So I think in the first place it's not a problem in the feedback loop, it's just that it's a suggestion/wish that is not not desired by too many players, let alone enough to catch the dev's attention.

    Besides that, Yoshida already stated that additions to jobs will only be made in the expansion, since they don't want to give one job another skill but not to the other ones. As 3.0 raises the level cap anyway and will give new skills and traits to every job, a change like that would be held back until the expansion. This is also the reason why Leviathan and Ramuh egi's (which have been confirmed for a long time now) didn't arrive yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    There are lots of threads with suggestions of things people wanna see in the game, and alot of them are the same suggestions everyday. ...
    There were a few mega SMN threads where this is brought up.

    It's a simple request. It's not a complicated change.

    Besides that, Yoshida already stated that additions to jobs will only be made in the expansion, since they don't want to give one job another skill but not to the other ones...
    I don't really see how that applies here. The Carbuncles have the exact same abilities as the Egis. It would mostly be a cosmetic option.
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 11-27-2014 at 11:43 PM.

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