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  1. #1
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    OldManBill's Avatar
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    Oldman Bill
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    Brynhildr
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Master Book II Lottery

    It seems to me that the Master Book II lottery may be the straw that breaks the camels back with me and FFXIV.

    I can successfully craft a balanced darksteel hook every time I try if so desired. The problem is getting a HQ item. I now have 1 HQ and 20 NQ sitting in my inventory after at least 50 attempts (reclaim). None of my attempts at actually finishing a rotation were made with less than 12% HQ chance the highest being 20%.

    I know things need to have randomness but this is ridiculous.

    I'd rather save time and buy lottery tickets for 100k gil and press one button to try for a HQ than continue to waste so many hours on rng that is rigged so badly.
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    Lady Jasmine
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    i have been working on these books for a while too and its ridiculous rng!!! i hate to say it but most of my HQ came at around 18% ...
    after spending millions on off hands, materia, new hands, feet ,legs and then gearing all up to be the best i could for the 4 star book attempts to find the horrible rng at this is making me cry. i have done every book except cooking and alchemy so far... and spent hours on each book and got to the point if i got to 10 stacks i just went for it and hoped for hell sometimes its worked and sometimes it hasn't. the cooking book so far i have gotten 6 attempts at 47% upto 85% and every single one of them turned out nq... thats when i had to walk away from trying for a while
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    Misenklauph Drakkfhur
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Mine HQ'd @ ~ 80% I don't have my Supra's. I got the mats for 8 synths, before I had reclaim, and I crafted 8 items, for both BSM and ARM, 3 turned out HQ for each class.

    The bane of my existence is Wootz Ingots hahaha. Trying to HQ those can be sooo painful. That being said, I realised I don't need HQ Ingots, and once I realised that my life got much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    I wish more tanks were like you also.
    http://xivreborn.com/gen/Misenklauph_Drakkfhur_Ultros_Classes.jpg

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    Lady Jasmine
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    mishini are you reclaiming every time you dont get good/excelent at 10+ stacks? i have only gotten 2 times that has been over 80%

    may i ask your rotation?? i am at 452 craftsmanship 424 control and 395 CP

    (i slip in tricks of the trade where its appropriate)
    Comfort Zone,
    Inner quiet,
    Peice by Peice x 2,
    Ingenuity II,
    Steady Hand II,
    Rapid synthesis x 2,
    Hasty touch until Steady Hand II runs out 10-20 dura
    Comfort Zone,
    Master Mand II at 10 or 20 durability,
    waste not,
    Steady Hand II,
    Hasty Touch x 5,
    repeat Steady Hand II hasty touch until 15 durability
    if normal or good,
    great strides,
    if good or excellent then
    Byregot's Blessing careful sysnthesis II to finish it
    if not good or excellent reclaim
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    Last edited by ladyJ; 11-25-2014 at 11:48 PM.

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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    You're typically not gonna get a rate higher than 30% unless you land BB's on a good (in which case it'd jump to 80%) or excellent (100%)...and that's assuming you didn't mess up too many hasty touches and got at least 8 stacks.

    The game's lately been messing with me for RNG too. And it's only for 3-4 star craft; my reclaims fail and I still NQ around 82% consistently.
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    Chrillix Khross
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    If you haven't HQ'd in 50 attempts, with no attempt greater than 12% you seriously need to re-examine your method/rotation. These are definitely possible to HQ without supra tools and without any of the new 2.4 gear. My suggestion would be to try to come up with a better method. There is NO set rotation to these crafts. You need to react to what you're given. I seriously LOL at 95% of the "rotations" I see posted on these forums or on reddit.
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    Sorry, but I agree with the above poster.

    It's not the system, but your crafting that needs improving. :/
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    Misenklauph Drakkfhur
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by chrillix View Post
    If you haven't HQ'd in 50 attempts, with no attempt greater than 12% you seriously need to re-examine your method/rotation. These are definitely possible to HQ without supra tools and without any of the new 2.4 gear. My suggestion would be to try to come up with a better method. There is NO set rotation to these crafts. You need to react to what you're given. I seriously LOL at 95% of the "rotations" I see posted on these forums or on reddit.
    I liked this post, and the post beneath it. for my 3* and 4* Crafts, I picked "Rotations" from these forums, I looked at why they work, tried them out, found out they aren't flawless, looked at why they don't work, and made changes / made them my own.

    Comfort Zone,
    Inner quiet
    Waste not ** I do not use ToT until after Waste not ends.
    Steady Hand II
    Peice by Peice x 2 (If Good or Ex, I Hasty Touch, and do a PbP after)
    Hasty Touch until SH2 wears off
    If 2 Comfort Zone remains, Careful Synthesis II
    Refresh CZ
    Refresh SH2
    Hasty touch until Steady Hand II runs out 5-15 dura
    Master Mand II
    -> What I do next really depends on how the SYnth has gone so far. If I've broken 2 or more Hasty Touches, I'll probably Reclaim. If I don't think I've gotten enough ToT, I'll Reclaim. Mind you, when I was doing My mastery books, I didn't have Reclaim even. I would just push forward and hope for the best.
    ->Let's say I haven't gotten a lot of ToT, I'm probably really low on CP, not enough for end rotation, and I should be around 6 or 7 stacks of IQ. I'might CS2 a couple times, to try and get a good condition, to get another ToT. If I do get one, I'll either Reclaim, or I'll go for it, SH2, Great Strides or BB if Ex, ingenuity II or BB if Good/Ex, Innovation, or BB on Good/Ex, CS2 (Make sure I'm not completing the synth), if I still don't have a good, and I haven't reclaimed, if I don't have a lot of stacks, I'll reclaim. If I have a lot of stack sof IQ, I'll just BB anyway, nd finish the synth as best I can.

    Hopefully that helps, but not verything in crafting can be put into an easy 1-touch macro. This stuff which is more challenging to synth is intended to be a challenge, and has taught me to be more and more flexible with my rotations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    I wish more tanks were like you also.
    http://xivreborn.com/gen/Misenklauph_Drakkfhur_Ultros_Classes.jpg

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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    If you're using WN, you're praying for Excellent at the right time.

    Go for 2 MMIIs, and if you don't get at least 6-7 ToT procs reclaim and try again.
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    Misenklauph Drakkfhur
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    If you're using WN, you're praying for Excellent at the right time.

    Go for 2 MMIIs, and if you don't get at least 6-7 ToT procs reclaim and try again.
    Praying for an Excellent, or a Good condition, and making the best with what I have if it doesn't come.

    Are you saying you just go through MM2 a second time, and when you get 11 stacks you just keep going / blow our BB on an excellent condition should it show itself?
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2237443/]
    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    I wish more tanks were like you also.
    http://xivreborn.com/gen/Misenklauph_Drakkfhur_Ultros_Classes.jpg

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