Before Name Change, Fix FC Bank Thieves First!

[Cedane]

The title implies and some friends made a very good point on this. Yes, some could make a rank to ensure they do not take from the chest, yada yada. But that fact does kind of remain. There are people actively going into FCs, working their way up rank or even right away if the FC rank lets them access right away--they go in, take all the gil and belongings in the guild chest and then leave.

Even if invited in, its still an act of thievery. SE hasn't done anything so people were left to let people know behind the scenes. Now with this name feature, they can easily change their name and continue to take advantage of the system.

I don't mind name changes. I like name changes. Sometimes, using Fantasia makes the current name your using obsolete. I get that... but if your going to sneak in a feature, you'd better fix this first! If someone comes into a Free Company with the intent to steal from everyone's hard work, whether they work up the rank to do it or join immediately, it doesn't matter. Its theft and SE, you got to do something about it before putting this feature in! Theft is theft, no matter what that Free Company did.

You gave them a tool to use to abuse it, and now its time to speak up and, hopefully, SE does something about it. Its a real issue and this name change only empowers those people to continue doing it.

[MaethusXion]

Too late, Namingway is here.

[Titor]

You cannot steal something given to you.

Also, the character ID number is the same. If you really are concerned about people taking things out of the FC chest, write down the ID numbers of these problematic people and check it every so often. Eventually if they change a name it can circulate around so people know who to run out for.

Or do not put extremely expensive items in a FC chest that is accessed by members you do not know very well.

Screen better, limit better. What would you propose SE do? They cannot have a "take items back from member" function, that would be silly.

[Rutteger]

So, what is your suggestion to "fix" the fact that people of a certain rank have the ability to remove Gil from an FC chest? I would genuinely like to hear what you think they can do to prevent this sort of thing happening in game.

[Zumi]

Don't give bank access to people you don't trust.

[zar]

Yes, some could make a rank to ensure they do not take from the chest, yada yada. But that fact does kind of remain. There are people actively going into FCs, working their way up rank or even right away if the FC rank lets them access right away--they go in, take all the gil and belongings in the guild chest and then leave.

So what do you want SE to do? Flick a wand and magically make all the bad people go away? Your solution works fine.

[Cedane]

So what do you want SE to do? Flick a wand and magically make all the bad people go away? Your solution works fine.

I want SE to acknowledge the problem and actually, you know, punish the thieves when it goes reported. Suspensions, bans, just... anything. Saying who the thieves are isn't enough. They should be discouraged from doing it and the stuff stolen should be returned. Thats what I think should happen.

Because right now? There isn't. It could happen and its literally punishing the victim. That is all this is. Punishing the victim. The indifference to the problem is pretty bad, and its happening right now.

No, the FC I'm in never had this problem but I can imagine how everyone else would feel or how horrible they feel when something like this happens and everyone blames the victim, not the criminal.

[Kaeda_Valentyne]

You cannot steal something given to you.

Also, the character ID number is the same. If you really are concerned about people taking things out of the FC chest, write down the ID numbers of these problematic people and check it every so often. Eventually if they change a name it can circulate around so people know who to run out for.

Or do not put extremely expensive items in a FC chest that is accessed by members you do not know very well.

Screen better, limit better. What would you propose SE do? They cannot have a "take items back from member" function, that would be silly.

That's like saying if you have a gym membership you can take the equipment home, cancel your membership and its not stealing. How well do you think that would go over? It's people like this who do the whole victim blaming that allow this to continue.

The least SE could do is fix the promotion issue that allows someone to promote another person above their own rank. This is continually used to steal things from FCs when ranks are put in place. A lot of people don't even know that it is possible for this to happen.

[Titor]

That's like saying if you have a gym membership you can take the equipment home, cancel your membership and its not stealing. How well do you think that would go over? It's people like this who do the whole victim blaming that allow this to continue.

The least SE could do is fix the promotion issue that allows someone to promote another person above their own rank. This is continually used to steal things from FCs when ranks are put in place. A lot of people don't even know that it is possible for this to happen.

More like you have a gym membership, drink some of the free water readily-given to you in the gyms, and then cancel your memberships.

That person who drank the water was not stealing it, since at the time they had a valid membership and the water was readily open and available to them.

[Kerwin]

What most people off of Balmung don't realize is there is a few individuals active on our server that are joining multiple FCs and stealing what they can from their chests and then moving onto another. All of my linkshell's and even my FC was hit by this individual(s). Just report the user and move on. They will punish the user if enough evidence and reports are provided