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    Housing Availability Infographic (large image)

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    Last edited by SeiMinuet; 09-17-2014 at 06:53 AM. Reason: edited a typo in the image

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    Good way of putting it in the sense of using visual image rather than just forum text. Kudos to you.

    Squeenix have not got a clue what they are doing on this aspect of the game. Did they seriously think everyone or even most people would be happy with this piss poor implementation of a gameplay feature that is highly sought after? Just how incompetent or ignorant can they be if they think doubling the wards is even close to enough towards solving the issue...the land grab was already a major issue and they just made it a hell of a lot worse.

    I think it is about time they invested in their infrastructure which would enable then to keep their promises instead of misleading or lying, they should not have forced competition between FC and personal housing on same plots as they should of been kept separate. I do not have problem with the price of small houses being in the 3-5million range but if they say it will be cheaper than FC housing...don't mislead or lie about it after which turn around and make them exactly the same price. Every player should be able to buy a house if they can afford it and not only a microscopic portion of the entire player base being able to have one.
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    I'm pretty sure they did the math wrong.

    30 House per Ward (3 Large, 7 Medium, 20 Small)
    8 Wards per City
    3 Cities

    So thats 720 Housing plots.

    72 Large, 168 Medium, 480 Small.

    But yea not enough houses
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    Oh you're right. I actually typoed that bit. I can revise.

    edit: revised again. I thought you meant a different number, but I do have it listed as 720 per server.
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    It's definitely not enough for the amount of interest in having a personal house. I mean, I can probably say that every single player (minus the RMT, although they'd want it for business reasons) wants a house. It's insane to think otherwise.

    But it does also take up resources, more than you might think due to the way they have designed housing (to be more community based rather than just instanced, single person things). That's likely one of the biggest factors against us. I've no idea how much extra resources it would need to even allow for those percentages to be doubled, let alone increased ten- or twenty-fold (and even then, it's not going to satisfy everyone).

    At least the houses are cheaper than they were back in 2.1 (y'know, when we were told they'd be cheaper for personal housing than they would be at that time for FCs).
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    Great infographic, this needs more visibility so the developers can consider the scope of the problem on their hands.

    1.5% of players having access to small plots when not even considering FC's is unbelievable.
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    Thank you SeiMinuet for this wonderful informative picture. A picture is worth a thousand words as they say Did you make it yourself? It's beautiful! Teach me how to make something like this

    Judging by this information, it seems that Yoshida-san is trying to make housing a status symbol. Whether people agree with it or not, I think he should outright state this...or wait...has he? If housing were, indeed, like all the other things that Yoshida-san has made easier in this game, made [bold]too[/bold] easy to obtain, then that might be the proverbial last straw for a lot more people than this issue is. I think Yoshida-san has struck a nice balance of adding more housing to encourage further deification of the people who do have a home by new subscribers and still adding other interesting content.

    Granted I have yet to try out this new content but I am excited with anticipation. If Yoshida-san were to make housing any easier than it is now, I might actually quit the game. Who wants a house when any Jane Doe can just go out and buy one like a gyasahl green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    But it does also take up resources, more than you might think due to the way they have designed housing (to be more community based rather than just instanced, single person things). [etc]
    I find the resources argument unacceptable when much older games have provided similar neighborhood style housing far more efficiently and effectively. If SE want to compete with modern MMOs or even older ones then this is something they seriously need to address.

    Apart from that, information about personal housing was given falsely and deliberately misleading to ease the players' worries about prices. I find this to be extremely disappointing, and it has greatly lessened my trust in those involved and the company in general (see this and this).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiMinuet View Post
    Oh you're right. I actually typoed that bit. I can revise.

    edit: revised again. I thought you meant a different number, but I do have it listed as 720 per server.
    You still listt 18 large, 42 medium, and 120 small per server, when the numbers given by ZodiacSoldier (72, 168, 480) are correct. 18 is the number of large plots in one city with 6 wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyu20 View Post
    Judging by this information, it seems that Yoshida-san is trying to make housing a status symbol. Whether people agree with it or not, I think he should outright state this...or wait...has he? If housing were, indeed, like all the other things that Yoshida-san has made easier in this game, made [bold]too[/bold] easy to obtain, then that might be the proverbial last straw for a lot more people than this issue is. I think Yoshida-san has struck a nice balance [etc]
    The pricetag is what makes housing difficult for average players to obtain. For those who have been saving up and STILL were unable to obtain a house it was due to limited space. For example, I logged in as soon as the servers were online (around 7am my time) and within three minutes every single small house was taken. Essentially it came down to luck rather than difficulty, and it is very frustrating for those who spent months anticipating housing and earning gil towards the purchase.
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